(September 28, 2022 at 1:00 am)Peebothuhlu Wrote:(September 27, 2022 at 2:53 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I don't know. Why did Putin invade Ukraine? Answer: They (Ukraine) wanted to join NATO. If that happens someday, what's to prevent NATO from stationing nuclear weapons in Ukraine?? In the early 60s, President Kennedy threatened nuclear war over the Soviets trying to pull a similar trick in Cuba. Do you think that Kennedy was merely joking? Or, was he serious??
Not sure how to reply to this.
So... if Russia 'Absorbes' the area that is currently Ukriane. Then Russia should not install any nuclear capability in that area, right?
Uhm... I don't think your over half a century old analogy quite works?
After all Cuba was a very happy and willing Russian ally? Like, Russia didn't start amphibious opperations and landing tanks and paratroopers in Cuba back in the 60's to force Fidel and the Cuban's to allow the building of military infrasctructure and the housing of large, nuclear capable aircraft? , did they?
Sorry, like I said, I'm missing something in your analogy there.
My stance is that the Russian's started this and the Ukrainian's (After 2014) were as prepared as they could be which is thence showing that the current Russian leadership might be as competent as some Western Governments.
I could but hope my country could put up the same effort should some other country decides that we should change our flags etc.
Your mileage may vary.
Cheers.
Not at work.
I think that war is stupid. Period. In explaining behavior, I am trying to understand it, and am certainly NOT trying to justify it.
It's kind of like discussing Manifest Destiny, the belief that the United States of America was destined by Almighty God to expand from one great ocean to the other, a belief which, of course, contributed to the abhorrent treatment of the indigenous peoples who were already living here. Simply discussing Manifest Destiny does not cause one to become a theist. Trying to make sense of Putin's "reasons" does not make me a Russian apologist.
As for me, I believe in One World Government. I don't care if the idea is stupid (it's not) or impractical (it's not). In my scheme all national boundaries that existed prior to Russia's invasion (indeed, maybe even a tad earlier than that) would be frozen. A World parliament with a World Prime Minister would be chosen, along with a new World constitution & Universal Declaration of Human Rights & Liberties, and a World Court which would have jurisdiction over anyone & everyone. All militaries would be abolished, along with all nuclear weapons. One multinational police force would be created to deal with any local unrest, subject to the Court & Parliament.