RE: Russia and Ukraine
October 25, 2022 at 2:39 am
(This post was last modified: October 25, 2022 at 3:33 am by Deesse23.)
(October 24, 2022 at 6:47 pm)Leonardo17 Wrote: The Invasion of Crimea is like the Invasion of Alsace and Lorraine by the Prussians in 1873 because these two areas were “German”.Its not the same. There are some fundamental differences!
1# It was 1870/1871
2# Alsace and Lorraine were part of "Germany", aka the Holy Roman Empire from 925 to the mid 1600s. Thats 700 years. In the Mid 1600s France (Loius IVX) gained those territories partly de jure (by marriage) and partly by war of aggression and annexion[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Years%27_War][/url].
#3 And most impotant: In 1870, "Germany " (non existent at that time) did not attack France, but France declared war on Prussia! Ok, Bismarck tricked Napoleon III into it, but politics is legal, war of aggression is not. A fact people like Bel all too comfortly ignore.
I am German btw.
Edit:
Thinking about this twice, there is maybe more similarity than i thought.
Napoleon was afraid of being encircled by the Habsburg monarchy, and thus attacked Prussia. Putin (allegedly) felt threatened by NATO (which is a lie, he wants to annex Ukraine in the first place, but ill grant this lie FOR THE SAKE OF ARGUMENT).
Napoleon was afraid of Spain electing a Habsburg price as King. This would have meant, France to be encircled by the Habsbug dynasty (Spain and Prussia). Since the king of prussia wouldt promise PERPETUALLY for no Habsburg to ever take the spanish throne, Napoleon declared war on Prussia.
Was Napoleon goaded somehow by Bismarck to attack Prussia? Sure, the "Emser depesche" shows some clever "manipulation" of an official document. Still, Napoleon is responsible for Napoleons actions. Noone FORCED Napoleon to attack Prussia. It was Napoleons decision.
Likewise with Putin. If he is too stupid to be in charge of hs country, if he is too incompetent to "diplomacy" and has to resort to war, then he has no business of being the head of a nation with a nuclear weapons arsenal in the first place!
Thats why History will remember Bismarck as a great politician and Putin as a warmonger and war criminal.
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