Russia and Ukraine

[The Grand Nudger]

Fucking the minsk chicken is the height of hilarity. Yanukoyvich runs, and russia occupies crimea within days. Russia then stirs up separatist militias in eastern ukraine while engaging in it's little green men bullshit, but never manages to convince even the ethnic russians in the occupied areas that joining russia is a good idea. It's after this that ukraine launches it's first military operation..with no military to speak of, and no money to outfit one...due to having been looted and plundered by the russian puppets who recently fled. They beat the russian irregulars ass, bad. So russia launched an invasion with regular forces and retook the territory ukraine had just liberated. It's at this point that ukraine wanted to make a deal with russia, and was willing to sacrifice territory to do so..not that they had much of a choice, what with the armed forces of a much larger and wholly belligerent nation already occupying those areas. This was the minsk agreement, in which donbas and luhansk would hold regular elections under ukranian law and russian forces would leave. They did not. Russian forces are still there. Russia set up a sham referendum. Russia also took advantage of this situation to capture even more ukranian territory.

Russia, not ukraine, blew up the minsk agreements, which were extortion to begin with.... because russia..not ukraine, never intended to adhere to them in the first place. So here we are, talking minsk, years later, like this shit is even remotely hard to look up. Imagining, I'm sure, that there's some other side to this story..but there isn't, not even from russia. Some people will believe anything except the truth, apparently. Vladimir Putin launched a wholly voluntary war of territorial acquisition, and fucked it up badly. End of.

People who bullshit themselves or others about this because they have some axe to grind about some other thing need to take stock of the contents of their minds. I'm absolutely certain that they can make all the batshit complaints their hearts desire without dragging ukranian bodies into it, because they were making those same complaints before ukranian bodies started piling up. Ukranians are under no obligation to negotiate with the terrorists currently attempting to murder civilians in order (or so they seem to believe) to break the will of an army they can't defeat on the field. Not just because they have our weapons now, but before as well, when they had jack shit and no one to fling it. The us may be the great satan, but ukraine is not. Ukraine does not have a nazi problem. Ukraine does not have a satanist problem. Ukraine does not have a nato problem. Ukraine has a russia problem...and we, the us, have a dingus problem.

Here's to hoping our dingus problem doesn't add to their russia problem, but this being the worst possible timeline, I wouldn't bet my life on it. The Bels of the world aren't even the worst of us, and consider how much shit ukraine would have to eat if they made policy.