(December 5, 2011 at 9:30 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:(December 2, 2011 at 8:58 pm)Rhythm Wrote: "I stand corrected, Kent Hovind appears to be a complete fucking moron and this "museum" is a joke. I can't believe that anyone would represent christianity and creation science to the world in such an idiotic way. I was wrong for insinuating that people were smearing his name by making baseless accusations. The gentleman who made the reference to him believing that the Flintstones was a documentary was absolutely correct."
What a bunch of incoherent gibberish, I have seen no evidence that Kent believes the Flintstones was a documentary, you merely re-asserting this claim proves nothing.
(December 2, 2011 at 9:17 pm)Happy UnBeliever Wrote: Dinosaurs did not exist huh?
Not what I said.
(December 2, 2011 at 9:41 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Head firmly shoved up your own ass again, eh Waldork?
http://worldofweirdthings.com/2009/01/05...e-science/
Nope, but I will never get tired of shoving my boot up yours. Observing small changes in organisms is not observing all life on earth descending from a single common ancestor. In fact creationists welcome these observations of speciation and small changes because they help explain the Ark. So you are going to have to do a whole lot better if you are going to try and prove a historical science such as evolution is actually an operational science such as Physics.
(December 4, 2011 at 5:30 am)orogenicman Wrote: Fossilization is a chemical process involving the crystalization/replacement of biological structures (be it bone, skin, or collagen. etc.). It is a well studied and understood process, having many decades of research behind its understanding.
Didn’t answer my question, has the process ever been observed to actually happen in Nature?
Quote:What direct observation do you believe we don't have with regard to fossilization? Please back up your respoinse with peer reviewed data.
It’s not my job to back up a negative claim; it’s yours to provide evidence for the positive claim. Give me a peer reviewed article that details the observed event of an animal dying, being buried, and then being fossilized in the wild. I don’t want theory and storytelling; I want actual repeatable direct observation of this process actually happening.
Quote:If you want proof, then you don't want a scientific explanation.
Bingo, that’s why I have been asking for a logical syllogism all along and have not gotten one yet.
Quote:It is no such thing. You are confused.
It was such a thing, you argued against the occurrence of an event (me being some posting robot) because it was not probable.
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It is an action statement, indicating that human behavior is occurring. Now, dude, you don't have to take my word for it that I exist. All you have to do is take me up on my long standing offer of going on a geology field trip.
I believe you exist, but that’s because I am not a hardcore skeptic like you guys all claim to be, if I play the part of the skeptic then I begin to question whether you exist or not.
Quote:We have evidence that humans and gorillas live at the same time.
Did you really miss my point that badly?
Quote: There is NO evidence whatsoever that dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time. Now, I think it is time for you to stop being so stupid and admit that:
Depends on what you will accept as evidence.
Quote: 1) you are not a scientist;
Well unlike you, I actually work as one, which makes me one by definition.
Quote: 3) have little knowledge of the scientific process;
Actually I have proven I hold to a stricter definition as to what is science and what is not, don’t hate me because I am more of a scientific purist than you are.
Quote: 4) and since 1, 2, and 3 are true, you should step aside and stop interferring with the discussions of others who are scientists, do play one at work, and have broad knowledge of the process and the field.
I understand your urge to silence someone you can’t refute, it’s a natural behavior for many people. I don’t believe I have met anyone on here besides myself who qualifies as above, so I think the conversations would be pretty silent on here.
(December 4, 2011 at 7:58 am)Happy UnBeliever Wrote: The Bible is NOT a BOOK of SCIENCE! It fails pathetically in that category!
I am so glad it’s not, that would make it fallible.
(December 4, 2011 at 11:56 am)Minimalist Wrote: Waldork is more like the janitor who sweeps up the lab.
Nope, his name is John. We don’t have labs though, we do more filed work than anything.
Quote:Not what I said.
Thats odd the title of this thread says you did.
Quote:I am so glad it’s not, that would make it fallible.
It already is in terms of your stupid creation theory. I mean any one that would create plants and trees before the sun! What? Was your god on drugs that day?