(December 6, 2011 at 3:44 pm)Xavier Wrote:I'm thinking of the vast majority of atheists who were once believers, but abandoned their God, from reading certain books and learning how to dismantle their God. They didn't perhaps become smarter; Matt Dillahunty was a fundamentalist Christian for over twenty years, and he is now a prominent and well known atheist; one of the most revered; see the Atheist Experience. Nikola Tesla was a Christian, and a great thinker - a genius, if you are aware of his achievements. I know believing in supernatural claims may seem absurd, but is not the reason you weren't a believer because you've learned to think rationally? Others haven't, but they may be a lot smarter than most atheists. William Lane Craig is - he is well known - a believer and he is extremely smart, although there is a perpetual dispute over his sanity.(December 6, 2011 at 3:03 pm)JollyForr Wrote: As we can see from earlier posts, some men of faith are inclined to believe in their religion out of yearning for some kind of purpose in life, while gravely avoiding the quest for the truth of their claims. It's not merely about intelligence; was not the majority of atheists once believers? It takes only the right tools to become an atheist - the proper mental tools required for breaking free from the degrading and childish shackles. Smart people can believe in religion; it shouldn't mean that if they believe in God, they're not smart; it just shows that the belief system is highly complex, and hollow words like 'stupid', will never even clip the real matter of what's going on.
Religion can intrude on anyone, because it's such a powerful delusion that it's so often hard to see through its thick wall of bullshit.
I just don't understand how smart people can believe in religious and supernatural myths though.
Surely smart or intelligent means a person won't believe far fetched claims in the absense of any evidence whatsoever.
And I don't think religions thick wall of bullshit is anything but extremely easy to see through in the best of times.
You'd have to be deaf. Religion just screams bullshit.
What I'm suggesting is that one can be smart and believe in utter nonsense. Being indoctrinated doesn't mean that you're not smart. Again... the majority - tell me if I'm wrong - of atheists were once believers; if one labels them as 'stupid', then would one cease to try and change their views? What's the point then, if that is the case?
Only now is humanity starting to loose religion and abandoning dogma; if one is a flat-earther, then I think it is safe to assume they aren't necessarily bright - or they may just be under a grave misunderstanding.