(December 22, 2022 at 5:04 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:But...but Ukraine could just roll over and let itself get conquered and NATO could just sit back and let it happen. Because that's totally reasonable.....Nuclear, WW3, NATO BAD!!!, Infinite Whataboutism, Blindly Trust Putin... yadda yadda yadda...(December 22, 2022 at 5:54 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: If NATO wasn't providing all of the weapons, I'd be fine with Ukraine fighting to the last man, if that's what they wanted to do. What I'm not fine with, is a war between NATO and Russia, which is happening now, unofficially. What I'm not fine with, is us going deep into Russia to attack their bases. We did that. NATO. And Ukrainians are freezing right now because of NATO.
Should Ukraine have accepted the peace deal? Who the hell knows. The West/United States was arming rebels in Syria knowing that those weapons were mostly falling into the hands of Al Qaeda and Isis and their affiliates, and now NATO is going deep into Russia to attack their bases. That's a hair away from WWIII. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton brought open slave markets back to the streets of Libya, so why would the US getting involved in things ever be a bad idea? I don't know. NATO are the good guys, right, so what is there to worry about? A world war has never happened before, right, twice, so like Helios says, we should just assume that a world war is never going to happen again. Nukes are irrelevant. They may as well not exist, etc, etc. This is what I'm told by Helios.
Ukrainians are freezing because of Russia. You must know that, it’s kind of a, whaddyacallit, news story.
Boru
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