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The most disturbing image I saw in my life
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RE: The most disturbing image I saw in my life
(January 16, 2023 at 12:29 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:
(January 16, 2023 at 1:48 am)Helios Wrote: Have you ever read Rand?

I’m generally familiar with her philosophy. But I fail to see how stating that life has no intrinsic value makes @Objectivist or anyone else a sociopath. Value is a judgement. It requires a valuer. There’s nothing pathological about that statement. I’m not sure what I’m missing here.

Thank you LadyForCamus,

We were discussing whether or not an infant has intrinsic value or not and I don't think anything has intrinsic value because the notion of intrinsic value is philosophically incoherent.  If I buy a sandwich at Subway, it doesn't come with a little packet of value to sprinkle on.  Neither are there little globs of value in the bread or the meat.  Value is a relational concept and has no meaning outside the context of a living organism's needs and to claim that it does is to steal concepts.

Now we know the answer to the question of whether this person has read any of Rand's writings.  He's proven that he hasn't read it or he read it with some preconceived notions and biases built in.  If he had read even a little he would know that Objectivism holds that man's life is not the means to anyone else's ends.  That sacrificing others to one's self is evil.  She never once compared life to a commodity.  Objectivism holds that the life of an individual is a unique and irreplaceable value and the lives of others are not ours to do with what we please.  She was the biggest advocate in the history of philosophy of a person's right to their own life.  A commodity is replaceable and it is a means to an end, not an end in itself as I hold.  Human traffickers treat individuals as a commodity and Objectivism holds that that is unconditionally evil.  That view is the literal antithesis of Objectivism which he or she would know if he or she had done the slightest bit of homework before opening his or her piehole.
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The most disturbing image I saw in my life - by WinterHold - January 8, 2023 at 6:40 pm
RE: The most disturbing image I saw in my life - by Belacqua - January 15, 2023 at 1:27 pm
RE: The most disturbing image I saw in my life - by h4ym4n - January 10, 2023 at 7:53 pm
RE: The most disturbing image I saw in my life - by Angrboda - January 12, 2023 at 8:47 am
RE: The most disturbing image I saw in my life - by Angrboda - January 13, 2023 at 10:07 am
RE: The most disturbing image I saw in my life - by h4ym4n - January 10, 2023 at 8:07 pm
RE: The most disturbing image I saw in my life - by Deesse23 - January 14, 2023 at 4:40 am
RE: The most disturbing image I saw in my life - by Belacqua - January 15, 2023 at 2:14 pm
RE: The most disturbing image I saw in my life - by Objectivist - January 16, 2023 at 2:49 pm
RE: The most disturbing image I saw in my life - by Silver - January 16, 2023 at 7:01 pm
RE: The most disturbing image I saw in my life - by Silver - January 20, 2023 at 6:29 am

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