RE: Russia and Ukraine
February 16, 2023 at 9:01 am
(This post was last modified: February 16, 2023 at 9:10 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(February 16, 2023 at 8:43 am)Helios Wrote:(February 16, 2023 at 8:17 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Shallow commitments to peace in the face of territorial ambition are underwhelming.It's easy to talk of peace when war is half an ocean away.
(February 16, 2023 at 8:46 am)Helios Wrote:(February 16, 2023 at 6:15 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: The most pro-war position possible is allowing an aggressor state to benefit from an elective invasion.Indeed how Anti War is it to reward invaders with land and concessions?
These two are the crux of it. Sure, peace is great and war is bad, someone should convince the russian administration of this. If, however, the way we choose to convince that admin that peace is great is by offering up a chunk of someone else's country - well......looks like war aint so bad after all, especially if you can use war to plead for a "peace" where you swallow your neighbors.
The people who think of the us as the great satan should really think long and hard about how the us could use such a "peace" proccess..itself. A question was asked earlier whether or not latin america was part of the western world. Not generally, but it sure as hell could be.....all we'd need to do was invade and then these people would tell latin america that they should allow us to annex their territory. For peace. Da?
I can already hear the batshit retort "but isn't that exactly what the us did in latin america and in the pacific during our imperial period!?!!!"- Sure was...and was that a bad thing...or...?. Peace for me by death to thee, I guess.
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