Russia and Ukraine

[The Grand Nudger]

Correct.  Any notion that the war can be stopped short of a russian defeat is fantasy, just as the assumption that russia could do what it's been doing forever is a fantasy.    

See above, re fantasy.  Russia already had crimea and donbas and luhansk, and they invaded anyway.  You're asking ukrainians to fall on a sword for you..up in battlefield canadia....which is at least honest and not some waffling bullshit about peace or the great western satan..but it's not as if those places being under russian hands stopped the russian invasion last year.  Meanwhile, there's literally no way that russia comes away from this..even in victory over ukraine.... without looking like a complete and total loser.  That ship sailed.

Perhaps that ship has sailed, but that won't stop this from being a long war. And the peacenik label is in regards to me being overly cautious and hesitant to support a proxy war between nuclear armed nations, pipelines being blown up, and things of that nature. Peace can be defined that way, or of course, there is peace through superior firepower. Words are funny like that and can be interpreted in different ways.

It already has been a long war?  It's nearly a decade old at this point.  You aren't hesitant to support proxy wars, or pipelines being blown up, or anything of that nature.  You support those things, insomuch as they seem to you to provide "global security" for you in canada when russia does them to ukranians, who should fall on swords. Christ, summon up the tiniest bit of courage in your own stated convictions and stop cowering behind more waffling "what is word" bullshit.

You, are worried, that a madman with a nuke will blow you up. Why pretend it's anything other than a hostage situation, lol?