(May 15, 2023 at 3:51 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(May 15, 2023 at 8:15 am)KerimF Wrote: Sorry, I couldn't get well your point.
Anyway, do you mean you heard what I said about 'hell' from another source, mainly a Christian one?!
My point is that the ‘holy’ books are so infested with reprehensible behaviours and ideas that religionists have to go all round the houses in a ridiculous attempt to show that the books are something worthwhile. All of the extraneous bombastic circumlocution you people can muster will never change the fact that the books - Christian and Muslim - call for and promise nightmarishly painful punishment for sinners and non-believers.
Boru
In general, you are very right.
Before I go one, I wish you know that what Muslims, Jews and formal Christians (to name a few) are supposed to believe and do, have nothing to do with the real message of Jesus that no preacher is allowed to talk about. Why? because it opposes clearly the crucial human instincts (the pre-programmed instructions, embedded in the human living body); as of survival, superiority and applying justice on others. Therefore, it opposes the crucial rules of any law (religious or political) around the world since they are all based on these natural instincts.
So, let us try to be more specific.
For example, we can start from something Jesus says on the Gospel that sounds, to you in the least, non-sense or lunatic.
By the way, I recall now how some of my classmates used seeing the various formulas, we heard of, in Math/Physics courses as being non-sense, but they had to learn them temporarily to pass their exams. On my side, I did the same but with Literature and History. So, I guess, by a miracle I was able to pass their exams, one year after another. Naturally, after school, I forgot almost everything related to them It happens that I just like playing with numbers, parameters, symbols and equations based on logic (this is why I ended up being a private designer in electronics besides being a professional programmer of microcontrollers for the last 45 years).
I mean while there is likely a global set of truths (that defines the universe in which we were brought temporarily), every human needs to know just a sub-set of it to get the perfect knowledge he looks for (perfect, relative to his personal needs). Naturally, this sub-set differs from one person to another (as one's DNA is different from of all others ). Of course, these different sub-sets have likely common points mainly the ones that reflect the difference between the human race and the other living things.