(May 17, 2023 at 4:32 pm)Kingpin Wrote:(May 17, 2023 at 3:33 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Do you really think that your morality only exists because of a god?
That's kind of sad.
And without god you would be without hope?
Again, sad, really.
Yes I do believe that. I believe morality (in the sense of pure objective, ground in truth morality) only exists if God exists. Otherwise it is purely human desire/preferences.
Yes, what hope is there in a naturalistic framework? Konrad Adenauer told Billy Graham that outside that resurrection of Jesus Christ he sees no other hope for mankind.
Those aren't the only possibilities.
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