(May 20, 2023 at 5:38 am)KerimF Wrote:(May 19, 2023 at 11:57 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Shades of randian free will in here. The notion that the only real or actual freedom we possess is whether to employ whatever agency we possess. We are still who we are, it's still going to do what it's going to do.
I'm not so sure this is meaningfully different from the freedom an ai possesses. What's with all the design and "Company of the Will " nonsense, it doesn't seem to be doing anything, just a dangling assertion.
A kid noticed a beautiful big car and said to his father: Father, please tell me, who made this car.
The father gives him a 'name' (please replace the word 'name' with the brand you prefer). But to go on, let us replace it with the world 'BMW'.
The kid: Is BMW a man or a woman.
The father: Neither, it is just a name of a company.
The kid: Where and how does this company live?
The father: Son, a company is not a living being.
The kid: Is it a sort of robot then?
The father: No, it is not a robot. it exists as a group of people working together on making cars as the one you saw.
The kid: Oh, I see. May I conclude that 'BMW' refers to the 'common will' of the people forming this group, company, in making their cars?
The father: Good remark son. Who says that kids don't see things better than adults sometimes!
Sorry, I agree with the kid about what is known also as 'God' as being behind our existence. I guess, this doesn't make me as any known theist or an atheist... right?
So, you see God as a capitalist investor, enabling the production of overpriced goods by underpaid workers aimed at an elite market? You may have a point.
Boru
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