RE: Woman - Life - Freedom Movement in Iran 2.0
May 20, 2023 at 11:52 am
(This post was last modified: May 20, 2023 at 11:53 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 20, 2023 at 11:14 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: a) On the theory of Plato: In “The Republic” he describe a “Philosopher King” who does not care about power but leads it’s primitive people toward enlightenment. Well, who is this person if it’s not the Pahlawi dynasty of Iran. So this Idea of Plato died in the Islamic Revolution of 1979.I like the reference, and I'd say that it's an especially good context for question b. Philosopher kings are still kings..and, if we assume the most beneficent possible rule, their kingship itself will still be an obstacle or liability to the (again, hypothetically maximally beneficent) philosophy they espouse, in the end.
In Montesquieu’s “Persian Letters” (1729 / France) the philosopher of enlightenment explains that any type of oppressive regime will perpetuate itself while creating more of this “primitive” or “masochistic” that is the foundation of the oppressive regime in the first place. So the way out of an oppressive regime is to completely leave the oppressive regime and turn to something new.
Quote:b) Second question humanity should be asking: - “What if I turn to democracy, but try to maintain some of those thing the way they were in past (because my people are so ignorant, primitive and stuff)”. And that’s what’s happening here. The answer is: “It will work for a while, but it will ultimately implode within itself”.The us is a hybrid democracy of exactly that traditionalist appeasing sort.
This is a well known phenomenon in sports: You can’t learn yoga by looking at the mat. In my first-aid course my teacher had told me: “Are you going to keep walking around this poor person or are you finally going to do something?”.
So either you are in (fully) or either you are out (fully). There is no hybrid democracy. Just show me an example. It doesn’t exist (anymore). And I don’t think it will ever be attempted again by anyone (outside place like Sub-Saharan Africa or whatever)
Quote:c) Third Question: “Is there a God”. This is one of the fundamental principles of Islam, you have to accept there is something called “Kadr” which means (if I’m correct) “The will of God”. I understand this as “The Secret Hand” mentioned by Adam Smith. And in the coming days (or years I don’t know), we might get a “sign” that points to a positive or negative answer to this question.
Meaning: In a purely material world: There is no way this country is ever getting back on its feet. Right? Iran wants to export its regime or its going to collapse within itself very soon. Russia needs us + Victor Orban + Serbia as Agents serving it’s whatever it is megalomaniac program. China has only some economic expectation but they would be said to have another dictatorship in their league either. The Arab League (meaning MBS) is eager to add Istanbul to it’s New Muslim Caliphate (Which is a new empire based on the Wahhabi interpretation of Islam = IRI).
So that’s where the planets are if you believe in Astrology. If you don’t, than you are like me and “wait for a sign”. And I don’t know if I’m fooling myself but I sort of turned this into an experiment. As I said: Technically, there is no way this country is ever getting back on its feet
Adam Smiths invisible hand of the market was absolutely not god, or the will of god. You misunderstand. The invisible hand is a metaphor for a merchants own purely material (and selfish) compulsions to keeping capital close at hand, and how this...explicitly unintentionally.... boosts economic and military strength.
As for the rest, are we talking about iran or turkey when we say "this country"? I'd never rule either out. They're (you're) major players over deep time.
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