(July 10, 2023 at 7:38 am)FlatAssembler Wrote:(July 9, 2023 at 12:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Not at all. Loads of suffering in the here-and-now has nothing to do with free well. People killed and injured by natural disasters, for one. Birth defects. Genetic abnormalities. Someone suffering from crippling depression through the loss of a loved one. And so on.
Boru
In one of my YouTube videos in Latin, I said that the suffering caused by the COVID-19 pandemic obviously doesn't come from free will. But Andreas Alcor responded to me that he thinks I don't understand what the sentence "Evil comes from free will." means. Here is what he said:
https://flatassembler.github.io/Simulati...dreasAlcor Wrote:Sed hoc iam ab incepto minus prudenter facere uideris: sententiae 'malum necessario uoluntatem (scilicet libertatem sponte faciendi) nostram consequitur' uiri, ut dicimus, coronarii quinquagiens centena milia hominum necantis mentionem faciendo respondes, quasi hoc uirus si numquam adueniret uoluntas uespertiliones edendi aliquo modo retineretur, ut argumentum irrideas. At hoc, quamquam tibi assentior malum non necessario uoluntatem consequi, haud quicquam redarguit, quod ne intellexisse quidem uideris sententiam. Fieri potest ut hoc iam diutius animo uolutaris atque hoc irrisu tuo "ne multa" dixeris, tamen hoc ipsa in pellicula non est manifestum.
Deus enim Christianorum arborem uel, ut in Vulgatis scriptum est, lignum posuit in medio Paradiso, uetuitque Adam uxoremque de fructu eius comesse, sed de hoc ne multa dicam quod omnes fere nos europaei hanc fabulam bene nouimus. Libera uoluntas donata dici potest (utrum assentiamur annon alia disputatio est) ideo quod serpens Heuae de hoc fructu esse persuasit atque Heua, sponte sua, contra numen Dei, fructum sibi carpsit. Si, Teo, rem recordaris, hoc scientiae boni et mali (Genesis 2.9) fuit lignum, inde Adam atque Heua se nudos colligentes erubuere, inde sciunt, secundum Vulgata, homines bonum atque malum esse, inde consequitur malum uoluntatem. Vtrum necessario consequatur necne disputari possit sed alias.
Vtrum haec sententia ad rem nostram, cur Deus mala fieri permittat, pertineat necne etiam disputari possit, tamen nequaquam redigitur ad uirus coronarium atque ad homines hoc morbo mortuos.
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