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Abortion-Killing: The Silent Genocide: 2 Billion Deaths Victims Worldwide.
RE: Abortion-Killing: The Silent Genocide: 2 Billion Deaths Victims Worldwide.
(July 23, 2023 at 9:36 am)Nishant Xavier Wrote: pls see the link to that website I gave on the Eucharistic Miracle of Lanciano. We have as much evidence for Christ's Power today as those who witnessed His Miracles when He walked on Earth, if not even more, after 2000 years of Eucharistic Miracles, well documented Miracles like those worked by Our Lady of Fatima etc, the Miracle of the Sun seen by 70,000 eyewitnesses on October 13,1917, in Fatima, Portugal. It confounded the Marxist press and led to some accepting/embracing Catholic Christianity.

I have FAR FAR FAR better evidence than you do for ANY of your miracles. 
Your evidence is shit, compared to mine, yet I will bet you don't accept FAR better evidence than you have. 

I present to you a series of events that occurred in what is now, one of the United States of America. 

The Governor of the state in question became involved. 
A court was established. Witnesses were carefully examined and cross-examined, by the best experts of the day. 
Evidence was gathered. Many people confessed in public to the officials of the court. 
The entire proceeding was documented with thousands of sworn affidavits, court documents, interviews and related proceedings. 
Sufficient evidence was established by intelligent men and women of good faith, that the declarations of the witnesses were true, and that these declarations should in all reasonableness result in the established legal consequences that reasonable good adult men and women thought were perfectly legitimate. 

What evidence did they have that the assertions concerning what they said they saw and were convinced of were really true ? 

1. Hundreds if not thousands of people were involved in concluding that what they said they saw and concluded was actually true. 
2. The witnesses provided sworn testimony in court, sworn affidavits which we can look at today, and affirmed they were completely utterly convinced that what they were saying was totally completely true. 
3. The witnesses came from all social strata, and every diverse background, including the most highly educated of the day. 
4. These witnesses included judges, magistrates, the governor of the state, and family members of those about whom the assertions were made. 
5. Many involved had much to lose if the assertions were to be found true. The consequences would impact many in very personal ways, if found to be true, thus had no conflict of interest, or reasin to lie. Many could lose beloved spouses and family members and friends about whom they cared a great deal. 
6. The proceedings were thorough, exhaustive investigations. They deliberately gathered evidence. They made every effort to sort out truth from fallacy. They went to every possible length to actually discern the facts. 
7. There are numerous artifacts from the time, and many documents from the proceedings we can review in person today. 
8. These proceedings happened, not 2000 years ago, but a mere few hundred years ago. The literacy rate was far far higher than in ancient Israel. 
9. For claimed events from 2000 years ago, there are no actual original documents of any kind. None at all. Only copies from centuries later. 
10. For the events in question we have sworn documented court testimony, not just word of mouth transmission. 
11. A truck full of documents from the proceedings exist at the University of Virginia Library. You can go see the testimony of the eye-witnesses for yourself, today. 
12. By any measure or method, the quantity and quality of the evidence for the events in question FAR FAR FAR outweigh the quality of the evidence for the events in Jerusalem 2000 years ago. 
13. Anyone who claims they have good evidence to support belief in Jesus, his death, and resurrection, or any miracle thought to have happened, today, IF they are in any way a consistent, honest, logical and a reasonably thoughtful person, they MUST in good faith also accept :


Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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RE: Abortion-Killing: The Silent Genocide: 2 Billion Deaths Victims Worldwide. - by Bucky Ball - July 23, 2023 at 11:38 am

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