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The Issue of Idolatry in Abrahamic Religions
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RE: The Issue of Idolatry in Abrahamic Religions
Thank you for your short and accurate answers and sorry for my long and complicated answers but I think this is important.
 
   After the atrocities of Charlie Hebdo in January 2015 that maniac (and no, I’m not going to mention his name) was yelling “We have avenged the Prophet Muhammad!”
 
Now most ordinary Muslims will disagree with this kind of barbaric acts but I know that there are a good percentage of them, among the supporters of the ruling political islamist party here who will silently agree with this act by saying things like “Yes but, why did this guy insult our Prophet?” or things like that.
 
So that’s when my approach and my interpretation of the issue comes in.
 
1) The prophet is dead. This means that he left his body some 1500 years ago. He is no longer in this world. There is like zero you can do to him. Therefore there is no way to avenge him either. If he has a legacy, I am part of those who mostly reject the value of the Hadith (the recorded sayings of the prophet), so if he has a legacy, that legacy is our Holy Book. So if you “love” the prophet, this can only mean that you need to try to understand his legacy, that is the original meaning of his teachings (like any other great spiritual leader).
 
2) I am a reader of an important scholar called Y.N. Öztürk (https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ya%C5%9Far...zt%C3%BCrk). In some place around the world people keep relics like “the beard of the prophet” or “the footprint of the prophet” or “the pice of the clothes of the prophet” or even “the personal belongings / the sword of the prophet”. Now these last one (Sword / clothes etc) may have some historical value. But otherwise, the Islamic doctrine itself is saying that none of these objects have any religious value whatsoever. In fact the reason why the prophet has act for no picture to be made of him, was to try to avoid some of the perceived mistakes that was committed in Christianity. In this doctrine, the “ordinary man / messenger” status of the prophet is emphasized. So the reason why he wasn’t even represented in pictures is not that he taught people to murder anyone who chooses to do so, it’s because he said “See, I’m just a man, I’m like you, try to be like me, do not worship me”.
 
And again, my personal spiritual view: someone who does not understand this may be missing the whole point. And that’s bigger than some murderous B.d. Once someone asked a famous sage in India “Sir are you God?”, the sage said “Yes, and so are you”.
 
   Now this is a deeper subject. But that’s the whole point of the entire issue (the way I understand it). And I define something that is the exact opposite of what I am trying to explain here as idolatry. And I think I must be correct on this. There was another Muslim at some point in some other part of this this forum. I think he would agree with me as well. Right?  Smile
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RE: The Issue of Idolatry in Abrahamic Religions - by Leonardo17 - July 26, 2023 at 2:52 am
RE: The Issue of Idolatry in Abrahamic Religions - by Belacqua - September 22, 2023 at 7:41 am

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