RE: My views on God and religion
October 10, 2023 at 7:05 pm
(This post was last modified: October 10, 2023 at 7:13 pm by ShinyCrystals.)
I wanted to bring this topic back up because I had a few more things to say, and I did make this topic, so...
First of, if God was omniscient, he would the future of everything in the universe. He would already know how people would act and what they'd do, but humanity has often described god as a being who watches over humanity more in a present sense. He waits to see what they do instead of using his omniscience to determine the future, it seems. If he were really omniscient, there would be no need to observe human actions in the present and wait before deciding if people would go to heaven or hell at the end of their lives. That is another thing that makes god more human than an actual divine being to me.
And there are people who say there is actually no such thing as free will. I believe that, but I want to say that even without free will, we are pretty much independent from god that he is not needed. Also, everything else can be considered independent from god as well, functioning and acting independently from god's so called "will". All things like natural disasters, how society works, basically anything in the universe is governed by the laws of logic and physics, which are so fundamental to this universe. In fact, they are so fundamental, there may not even be a need for a god to control everything. The problem, as I may have said before, is that many things in life are complicated, and not so simple for humans to understand, but no matter how complex anything is, I'd say the complexity of the universe and its things as well as the fundamental laws of the universe make it so that a god is not needed. The laws of logic and physics do not change anyway, and even if they did, the slightest change of anything could lead to dire consequences for us, and maybe everything else. Take moving the moon of planet Earth, for example; doing so would have a drastic, very bad effect on the tides of Earth, perhaps among other things, too. Or moving the earth from orbit, which could cause horrible things due to mass (or inertia) causing things to fling around at dangerous speeds from the orbit change as well as an imbalance of sunlight, depending on how far or close the Earth is moved from or to the sun, among other things. Now, those may not be physical laws in themselves, but I can imagine that if we could change a law of logic or physics, it would lead to dire results for us, maybe unless other laws of logic or physics are changed to balance things out.
But anyway, with the fundamental laws of physics and logic and how they can make us function independently from a supreme being like god, all god would be necessary for is to create the universe, and even then, I doubt he actually created the universe; let there be light and all.
First of, if God was omniscient, he would the future of everything in the universe. He would already know how people would act and what they'd do, but humanity has often described god as a being who watches over humanity more in a present sense. He waits to see what they do instead of using his omniscience to determine the future, it seems. If he were really omniscient, there would be no need to observe human actions in the present and wait before deciding if people would go to heaven or hell at the end of their lives. That is another thing that makes god more human than an actual divine being to me.
And there are people who say there is actually no such thing as free will. I believe that, but I want to say that even without free will, we are pretty much independent from god that he is not needed. Also, everything else can be considered independent from god as well, functioning and acting independently from god's so called "will". All things like natural disasters, how society works, basically anything in the universe is governed by the laws of logic and physics, which are so fundamental to this universe. In fact, they are so fundamental, there may not even be a need for a god to control everything. The problem, as I may have said before, is that many things in life are complicated, and not so simple for humans to understand, but no matter how complex anything is, I'd say the complexity of the universe and its things as well as the fundamental laws of the universe make it so that a god is not needed. The laws of logic and physics do not change anyway, and even if they did, the slightest change of anything could lead to dire consequences for us, and maybe everything else. Take moving the moon of planet Earth, for example; doing so would have a drastic, very bad effect on the tides of Earth, perhaps among other things, too. Or moving the earth from orbit, which could cause horrible things due to mass (or inertia) causing things to fling around at dangerous speeds from the orbit change as well as an imbalance of sunlight, depending on how far or close the Earth is moved from or to the sun, among other things. Now, those may not be physical laws in themselves, but I can imagine that if we could change a law of logic or physics, it would lead to dire results for us, maybe unless other laws of logic or physics are changed to balance things out.
But anyway, with the fundamental laws of physics and logic and how they can make us function independently from a supreme being like god, all god would be necessary for is to create the universe, and even then, I doubt he actually created the universe; let there be light and all.
