A thing about religious (and other) people and the illusion of free will

[ShinyCrystals]

I was not being snarky, at all. And furthermore, I was not trying to start a debate or try to prove anything, too, with evidence. If you must know, neuroscience says that it is the subconsciousness that determines human actions, not the conscious mind. Still, I am sure I know what you are trying to do, and you did the same with @bucky Ball earlier on this thread. I am not falling for that a second time.

Because I was not trying to cause a debate, and because I can see where this is going, you're not going to be shown evidence. I was not asking for a debate, I was only asking a question. I am not doing this.

That's fine. I will still comment as I see fit. I'm trying to elucidate exactly what this evidence is. Your refusal to produce it is a you problem. I'm also trying to figure out what you two mean when you use certain words in non-standard meanings. Don't blame me for wanting clear English in a discussion, and don't get pissy at me for it.

And yes, starting a reply with "um" is snarky, at least online.

In conversation, a word that announces one's contempt for and hostility toward the person they're about to contradict. Most common on the Internet, for obvious reasons.

So yeah. I didn't ask for you to state that there's evidence. I want to read the source material for myself so I'm not getting it filtered through your biases.

[...] since it is said by neuroscience that it is the subconsciousness deterministically making the "decisions"

[Emphasis added -- Thump]

And how are these decisions known to be deterministic? What if someone has conditioned themselves -- by their own decision and design -- to respond a certain way in a certain circumstance? Is it determinism if one makes a conscious choice to become a doctor, and then unconsciously perseveres through difficulties in med school without thinking?

You are loading your points with assumptions.

First, in this case, "Um" being used by me was not intended as a snarky response. Also, I am not getting "pissy", nor was I really blaming anyone. That said...

Where have you been? Others here have shown to not believe in free will, so what makes me special? With that, I do not think you can call my posts biases, let alone assumptions.

Thirdly, I doubt you would be able to see the reasoning behind anything I link to as evidence, and just continue to be agnostic towards it for the sake of it. That is why I do not see any reason to go ahead and link it to you, let alone continue this. Next time, try controlling any desire to comment you may have, as in suppressing it. You might try to start unwanted trouble, otherwise. 

I do not see a need to do what you ask me, knowing what will happen, so I am done with you here. No further statements.