RE: Russia and Ukraine
November 27, 2023 at 11:43 am
(This post was last modified: November 27, 2023 at 11:46 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Thanks Obama!
Obama was sympathetic to russian claims. Pre february 2022 there was also the very real fear that russia could out escalate the us. Especially if we go all the way back to the obama years. Massive equipment transfers while we were still fighting two wars ourselves? Obama as a candidate backed ukraine (so did mccain). As president, though, that support was nonexistent until 2014. Obama, in mere reality, was the problem with getting ukraine in. Not that it would have mattered much before russia annexed crimea. Ukranians were against it. Occupation caused a 180 on that issue....and, ofc, for the us much the same post 2016. From refusing to offer lethal aid to opening up the candyshop everytime putin bombs another kindergarten. If we're going to blame us presidents for the war in ukraine then we need to give credit where it's due. That'd be trump, who was humiliated when he attempted and failed to blackmail ukraine and 100% in the tank for vlad the great.
To this very day, the russians long for a return of their agent Trumpushka. They see it as critical to their war effort, lol.
Obama was sympathetic to russian claims. Pre february 2022 there was also the very real fear that russia could out escalate the us. Especially if we go all the way back to the obama years. Massive equipment transfers while we were still fighting two wars ourselves? Obama as a candidate backed ukraine (so did mccain). As president, though, that support was nonexistent until 2014. Obama, in mere reality, was the problem with getting ukraine in. Not that it would have mattered much before russia annexed crimea. Ukranians were against it. Occupation caused a 180 on that issue....and, ofc, for the us much the same post 2016. From refusing to offer lethal aid to opening up the candyshop everytime putin bombs another kindergarten. If we're going to blame us presidents for the war in ukraine then we need to give credit where it's due. That'd be trump, who was humiliated when he attempted and failed to blackmail ukraine and 100% in the tank for vlad the great.
To this very day, the russians long for a return of their agent Trumpushka. They see it as critical to their war effort, lol.
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