(November 30, 2023 at 7:35 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: If you really don’t think ideals are meaningless because they’re impermanent, why did you say it?I think (divine) ideals are meaningful and permanent.
I can review idealism without a divine being - to test it, and find if it makes sense or not. It doesn’t to me at least.
(November 30, 2023 at 7:35 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: One might say the same thing about a cocker spaniel. Would you devote your best efforts to a cocker spaniel?Bad example. Lots of people devote their best efforts to their dogs.
Anyway - I’m talking about a divine being - perfection. Not a dog.
(November 30, 2023 at 7:35 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Of course it’s out of proportion. Trying to make people behave via the threat of eternal punishment for finite transgression is MONSTROUSLY out of proportion. And what you’re describing isn’t love, but a dangerous co-dependency.That’s when you have two imperfect beings coming together and addicted to each other’s worst parts - parts we should be outgrowing not indulging.
I’m talking about a perfect being and a mortal.
We really should drop the childish ideas of god to talk about this seriously.
God as a cocker spaniel ??
God as a narcissist??