(December 3, 2023 at 5:17 pm)Confused-by-christianity Wrote:How could you possibly deny it if you wanted to?(December 3, 2023 at 5:07 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: A pointless loop, as the question was about goodness, not godness. God is whatever a god is and whatever is flowing out of a gods wherever -that- is.I'll be honest mate - I stopped engaging in your replies as we hit a rock. I dont see things as you do :-) I allow myself to be lead from time to time for curiosity or for the exercise ;-)
It doesn't matter to goodness whether the thing we were apprehending would be a god anymore instead of a devil..which is, I guess(?), the "bad" version of a god. Implying that you have a standard that -you- hold gods too.
That you both now apprehend and discuss the question as some sort of trap rather than a softball pitched at you - suggests to me that neither of you feels confidently about the proposition that what is good is whatever flows out of gods whatever...and why should you?
Neither of you think that, and neither do I.
I think you let slip that you're a great guy - and i bet in real life you are !!!! (I mean that - thats not a joke, or banter or trolling - i really think that !!!). In another life - we could be drinking buddies haha ;-)
Either there are facts about me that make me great, or greatness is whatever comes out of my wherever.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!