RE: Russia and Ukraine
January 30, 2024 at 8:32 am
(This post was last modified: January 30, 2024 at 8:47 am by Leonardo17.)
(January 19, 2024 at 11:21 am)modernite Wrote:(January 19, 2024 at 7:30 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: Watch my previous video. Ukraine has Soviet era Su-27’s. These have almost no chance against more advanced Su-35’s etc. So if a Russian airplane is coming. They have to flee.
Of course they have Javelin rocket launchers + other air defense systems like the patriot missiles. But with a fleet of F-16’s + western provided missiles that go with it, they will be able to take on the Su-35’s and therefore (if I am understanding correctly) they will be able to hit more onto the Russian fortified defenses giving more chance to the Leo tanks to break through these defenses.
Also: I found this video of Bradley Infantry fighting vehicles destroying the Russian Armata tank (aided by a drone).
Modernite’s comment on pan-Slavism:
See the recent events in the Bashkir Region:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/1/17...hkortostan
Half of Russia’s population (perhaps more) are Turkic people (not Slavs).
This is why Russia is not a nation-state proper but a federation.
That’s the only thing it can be. It’s a multi-cultural federation in which the Russian ethnic group is the main element.
This pushes some people to believe that it has to turn into an empire once again. My view is that the Democratic Federation model is the most logical model in the short and longer term.
Dugin’s assassination:
Every month or so someone is falling from a window, is found dead at the bottom of some stairs, has been poisoned with novatchev or something like that. That’s what happens when you have a spy for president.
And Historically: It reminds me of the East-Roman way of doing things. They also had these emperors found dead in the swimming pool, high officials found estranged in some places, Generals taking arms against Byzantium and then asserting themselves as the new emperor etc. (just as a note for those interested in ancient history)
There is also the topography of Ukraine. You can resist a stronger force if you have element like hills, dense forests or jungles and marshes from which you can carry out hit and run strikes.
Holding and stabilizing an opponent like Russia (that has tanks and airplanes) on the open field is not (militarily speaking) such an easy task.
So Ukrainians must be good and so is whatever military expertise it is that is backing them.
Where are you pulling your figures that half of people are turkic, instead slavic? Out of your butt? According to a 2021 census, atleast 81% of people in Russia are ethnic russians, who are slavic.
Sorry about that. You are right:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Russia
I’m a History-wired person. Before the Russians (Muscovites) started to take all these territories known as Russia today starting from the 1600’s, The entire area was known as “The khanate of the Golden Horde” (the continuation of the Mongol Empire in that area). So one by one, they took out many of these areas and made their way to the Black sea in the south, and the Pacific to the East.
So my argument stands: There is 85 states within the Russian Federation. Some of them are asking for independence (like Chechnya). The only solution is a Germany style Federal (democratic government). Not an empire.

Anomalocratis: "I think that came from Nazi era propaganda depicting the Russians as “asiatic hordes” in the most derogatory sense."
It’s not derogatory. It’s History. The reason why I said this is that some of the Ukrainian Propaganda is stating that there are many parts of the Russian Federation who will want to break away from Russia when the war in Ukraine is over. This is the same line of thinking as those who say that Russia must be strong and must remain an empire.
I think they can keep this multiculturalism (inherited from the Soviet era) and be a Germany style Natio-Federation that respects the rights of minorities and the Slavic majority and thus move forward like that (instead of trying to take Belarus, Moldova, Georgia, etc.).
I they go on with this mentality, they might even end up conceding territory back to China in the east and, eventually disintegrate more. And I don’t like that idea that much

Later comments:
Russia is said to be replenishing it’s tanks at a rate of 100 a month. They still have this huge war industry that this pro-Russia friend of ours (Bellaqua) was talking about.
The Task of Ukraine is not an easy task. They’ll have to keep killing all these armored vehicles as they arrive

Still the economy is going bad. Russian economy cannot sustain this war indefinitely. Some of their tankers are now in the middle of the Ocean with nowhere to go.
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