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IF There Was God...
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RE: IF There Was God...
(June 22, 2024 at 6:59 pm)Questor Wrote:
(June 22, 2024 at 5:08 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: ‘Horseshit.’ - Paul’s Epistle to the Aquilonians, 8:3. 

Also, 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12

Boru

Ah! Another Paulinite! And you are a cherry picker too, taking verses out of context!

2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 (CJB)
9  When this man who avoids Torah comes, the Adversary will give him the power to work all kinds of false miracles, signs and wonders.
10  He will enable him to deceive, in all kinds of wicked ways, those who are headed for destruction because they would not receive the love of the truth that could have saved them.
11  This is why God is causing them to go astray, so that they will believe the Lie.
12  The result will be that all who have not believed the truth, but have taken their pleasure in wickedness, will be condemned.

The ones in question refused the love of the truth, and thus are more than willing to believe lies they already chose above the truth they were offered. YHWH does not have to forever woo and persuade when someone is adamant about their refusal of him. At that point, they simply become useful idiots.

But God deliberately deluded them into believing a heretical falsehood for the express purpose of denying them redemption. This rather puts the the lie to your claim that God doesn’t muck about with free will.

Also, you might want to have a butcher’s at Exodus 20.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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IF There Was God... - by ronedee - February 2, 2024 at 12:17 am
RE: IF There Was God... - by Nay_Sayer - February 2, 2024 at 12:18 am
RE: IF There Was God... - by Silver - February 2, 2024 at 12:22 am
RE: IF There Was God... - by Ravenshire - February 2, 2024 at 1:16 am
RE: IF There Was God... - by Jackalope - February 2, 2024 at 1:56 am
RE: IF There Was God... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 2, 2024 at 4:08 am
RE: IF There Was God... - by no one - February 2, 2024 at 4:33 am
RE: IF There Was God... - by The Grand Nudger - February 2, 2024 at 10:40 am
RE: IF There Was God... - by Anomalocaris - February 2, 2024 at 11:20 am
RE: IF There Was God... - by Fake Messiah - February 2, 2024 at 11:49 am
RE: IF There Was God... - by The Valkyrie - February 2, 2024 at 12:41 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Astreja - February 5, 2024 at 11:01 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Mister Agenda - February 2, 2024 at 4:44 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by ronedee - February 4, 2024 at 3:00 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 4, 2024 at 3:02 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by The Valkyrie - February 4, 2024 at 3:43 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by h4ym4n - February 4, 2024 at 6:18 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by ronedee - February 4, 2024 at 8:53 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Ravenshire - February 4, 2024 at 9:46 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 5, 2024 at 5:42 am
RE: IF There Was God... - by Pat Mustard - February 5, 2024 at 5:50 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Astreja - February 5, 2024 at 10:59 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Mister Agenda - February 5, 2024 at 3:14 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Pat Mustard - February 5, 2024 at 5:49 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by brewer - February 2, 2024 at 4:53 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by The Valkyrie - February 2, 2024 at 10:34 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by brewer - February 2, 2024 at 11:04 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Jackalope - February 2, 2024 at 11:18 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by zebo-the-fat - February 2, 2024 at 5:50 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by brewer - February 4, 2024 at 9:18 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Nay_Sayer - February 4, 2024 at 9:20 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by brewer - February 4, 2024 at 9:21 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Nay_Sayer - February 4, 2024 at 9:21 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by brewer - February 4, 2024 at 9:25 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by no one - February 5, 2024 at 5:47 am
RE: IF There Was God... - by h4ym4n - February 5, 2024 at 6:23 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by arewethereyet - February 5, 2024 at 6:27 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Prycejosh1987 - June 12, 2024 at 10:57 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Pat Mustard - June 15, 2024 at 7:31 am
RE: IF There Was God... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 15, 2024 at 7:40 am
RE: IF There Was God... - by The Valkyrie - June 15, 2024 at 12:43 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Questor - June 15, 2024 at 5:51 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Pat Mustard - June 16, 2024 at 4:26 am
RE: IF There Was God... - by Questor - June 16, 2024 at 11:32 am
RE: IF There Was God... - by Pat Mustard - June 18, 2024 at 5:44 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Questor - June 18, 2024 at 6:41 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Pat Mustard - June 22, 2024 at 10:45 am
RE: IF There Was God... - by Questor - June 22, 2024 at 3:25 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Pat Mustard - June 22, 2024 at 5:47 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by The Grand Nudger - June 16, 2024 at 12:18 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 16, 2024 at 12:21 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Questor - June 16, 2024 at 1:30 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 16, 2024 at 2:12 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by The Grand Nudger - June 16, 2024 at 1:39 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by The Grand Nudger - June 16, 2024 at 2:29 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Questor - June 16, 2024 at 3:29 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 16, 2024 at 5:49 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Questor - June 18, 2024 at 4:26 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by The Grand Nudger - June 16, 2024 at 8:32 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Questor - June 18, 2024 at 5:24 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Paleophyte - June 20, 2024 at 3:24 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Mister Agenda - June 17, 2024 at 12:30 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Rev. Rye - June 16, 2024 at 4:19 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by The Grand Nudger - June 21, 2024 at 2:17 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Questor - June 22, 2024 at 4:20 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by no one - June 22, 2024 at 4:18 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Questor - June 22, 2024 at 4:42 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 22, 2024 at 5:08 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Questor - June 22, 2024 at 6:59 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 22, 2024 at 7:30 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Ahriman - June 22, 2024 at 7:48 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 22, 2024 at 8:16 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Questor - June 22, 2024 at 10:23 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 23, 2024 at 4:37 am
RE: IF There Was God... - by Questor - June 23, 2024 at 1:27 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 23, 2024 at 2:23 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Questor - June 23, 2024 at 3:09 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 23, 2024 at 3:16 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Ahriman - June 23, 2024 at 3:23 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by The Grand Nudger - June 22, 2024 at 6:36 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Ahriman - June 22, 2024 at 7:04 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by h4ym4n - June 22, 2024 at 9:38 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Ahriman - June 22, 2024 at 9:45 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Silver - June 22, 2024 at 7:51 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Silver - June 22, 2024 at 10:35 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by The Grand Nudger - June 22, 2024 at 11:55 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Questor - June 23, 2024 at 12:44 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by brewer - June 23, 2024 at 1:03 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Questor - June 23, 2024 at 1:42 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by brewer - June 23, 2024 at 1:45 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Questor - June 23, 2024 at 2:22 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by brewer - June 23, 2024 at 2:27 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Questor - June 23, 2024 at 2:31 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by brewer - June 23, 2024 at 3:40 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 23, 2024 at 1:05 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Questor - June 23, 2024 at 1:47 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Paleophyte - June 23, 2024 at 7:46 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by The Grand Nudger - June 23, 2024 at 1:13 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 23, 2024 at 1:14 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Questor - June 23, 2024 at 2:14 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by Ahriman - June 23, 2024 at 2:31 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 23, 2024 at 2:37 pm
RE: IF There Was God... - by The Valkyrie - June 23, 2024 at 3:27 pm

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