(July 8, 2024 at 1:36 pm)h4ym4n Wrote:(July 8, 2024 at 1:27 pm)brewer Wrote: I didn't know god was into politics. Ba-bye separation.
Then you don’t know yahweh all that well
Romans 13:1
New International Version
Submission to Governing Authorities
13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
That comes into conflict with the notion that the jewish god uses foreign powers to invade Israel when the people of Israel have committed crimes.
The jews viewed Rome as an evil force, as a group that worships false gods.
Also, Rome placed statues and engravings of the roman gods in Israel and this wasn't a source of pleasure for the jews. It pissed them plenty.
Why is that book called Romans? Maybe it was written for Romans.
Anyway, there are other locations where Jesus supposedly respects Rome.
Interestingly, the son of the true god, Jesus, never says that Rome and other countries worship false gods. There must have been a lot of Romans in town but he never says a word to them.
In the case of Moses vs the king of Egypt and his magicians, Moses basically says that your gods can suck it. Let my people go.
Quote:Matthew 22:19 KING JAMES VERSION
Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny. {22:20} And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? {22:21} They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
Mark 12:15 KING JAMES VERSION
Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see it. {12:16} And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Caesar's. {12:17} And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.
Luke 20:22 KING JAMES VERSION
Is it lawful for us to give tribute unto Caesar, or no? {20:23} But he perceived their craftiness, and said unto them, Why tempt ye me? {20:24} Shew me a penny. Whose image and superscription hath it? They answered and said, Caesar’s. {20:25} And he said unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which be Caesar’s, and unto God the things which be God’s.
Oddly enough, there is no John version of the above lines.