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The Presidential Debate of June 27th
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RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th
(August 23, 2024 at 9:55 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(August 23, 2024 at 4:20 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: The truly problematic ideologies are't held by the ones who have walked out, but by the fascists who remain, and Trump is the enabler-in-chief.

They have no ideology. They only have a lust for power. Ted Cruz took Trump insinuating his father was involved in the JFK assassination, and then calling his wife ugly, and then turned around and gratefully bolted down his share of schlong in order to ride Trumpeteer votes.  That's not to say their lack of ideology is not a big problem -- it is.

I believe that like Cruz, most of them aren't ideologues, but rather office-holders enamored of power already gained, or like Vance, sticking onto the Trumpeteers like a remora on a shark in order to scavenge a better living than they could find swimming the ocean on their own.

Rather than Trump being their enabler-in-chief, Trump is rather their coattail-puller, and they only enable him insofar as they can ride his coattails, in my opinion. I think you may have it backwards. They need his base a lot more than he needs them.

I don't really believe in existence of non-ideological politicians (or humans for that matter). Sure ideology could take second place to lust for power but why wouldn't it be ideology that pushes them to said lust? Whether they're fascists, authoritarians, reactionaries, illiberals or nationalists (or whatever else) it is perfect reason for them to want to get power to remade US in their image.

In my view we all have our ideologies (perhaps incoherent or fragmented sometimes as befits XXI century, or staying in the background). It's just that not everyone broadcast them loudly.
The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth.

Mikhail Bakunin.
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The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by Leonardo17 - June 30, 2024 at 12:11 pm
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by Belacqua - July 2, 2024 at 8:39 am
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by Silver - June 30, 2024 at 6:40 pm
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by Pavlov - July 1, 2024 at 4:18 am
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by Nanny - July 1, 2024 at 7:51 am
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by Pavlov - July 1, 2024 at 9:41 am
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by Nanny - July 8, 2024 at 12:04 pm
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by brewer - July 8, 2024 at 6:02 pm
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by Fireball - July 8, 2024 at 9:00 pm
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by Leonardo17 - July 13, 2024 at 11:53 am
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by Leonardo17 - August 21, 2024 at 9:02 am
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by Ravenshire - August 22, 2024 at 10:04 pm
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by Thumpalumpacus - August 22, 2024 at 10:37 pm
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by Thumpalumpacus - August 22, 2024 at 11:03 pm
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by Thumpalumpacus - August 22, 2024 at 11:26 pm
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by Jackalope - August 23, 2024 at 10:22 am
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by Ravenshire - August 23, 2024 at 4:20 pm
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by Ivan Denisovich - August 25, 2024 at 4:03 am
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by Belacqua - August 25, 2024 at 8:10 am
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by Silver - August 22, 2024 at 10:57 pm
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by Silver - August 23, 2024 at 12:13 am
RE: The Presidential Debate of June 27th - by h4ym4n - August 24, 2024 at 10:04 am

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