Fentanyl topic split off election thread.

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I read medical literature daily, 5 journal articles this morning. I doubt your claims of fentanyl use for post op pain and therefore doubt the entire story.

Really, an article from 2009, only compared ibuprofen against placebo and not other medications (of course it's going to control pain better than placebo), review of medical literature only (back as far as the 1980's). Did you read the conflict of interest?

Yep, you're on top of things going on in the medical community.

Good for you, so you can like this other 

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In the first link I have no clue which article you wanted me to look at. In the second link it primarily compared ibuprofen to placebo or acetaminophen for analgesia and antipyretic effects. In a few of the studies they reported a decreased use of opiates/opioids, not a direct comparison. 

I think you're fear of addiction is valid but appears to be somewhat dramatic. There are many other factors that lead to opiate/opioid addiction with regard to surgery, one of the  most common is opiate/opioid use prior to surgical intervention.

And yes, the US culture/patients/doctors have been indoctrinated to prescribe (over prescribe), not just with narcotics but across the range of aliments/treatments. Part of that falls on the pharmaceutical industry/lobbyists in the US.
Since the US opiate/opioid crisis prescribing restrictions and reporting regulations have been enhanced for health care providers, wholesalers and pharmacies. You might want to look them up. Any chronic addiction or deaths are often due to patient abuse and/or availability on the black market/street. Side note, did you know that Europe introduced fentanyl to the world?

I'm not convinced that fears of addiction out way allowing additional unnecessary suffering. If you want to make value judgements regarding Europe and US health care, fine by me but I'll not necessarily validate it. And I don't find offering medical advice/positions (when not in health care) on the internet very professional.

Getting into a discussion over the use of GLP-1 and GIP agonists is a different topic with different considerations.

I'm done with this conversation.