(December 29, 2011 at 8:39 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Like...When Samson ripped some guys a new asshole through their stomachs with just a jawbone?True, but in cases, Christians are hypocrites - they preach of God's love, yet they demonize homosexuality by quote the verses of anti-gay scriptures. I just don't think the quoting the verses of anti-gay scriptures will make the hatred against homosexuality any civilized. Nor will any kind of excuses to make the incivility civilized. Religion isn't help anything, really.
Obviously, those verses were not meant to instill morals, whatsoever.
They are there only to demonstrate the strength/wrath of God.
That's it. The moral guidelines are exhibited elsewhere, and people read the bible accordingly when searching for biblical morals.
Besides, it comes down on the person. I do not believe in the bible, so I do not use it in order to justify my moral standpoints.
But at the end, society is formed of individuals who agree on a common set of morals, which are not really distinct from what are said in most holy books.
Don't steal, don't fuck other people's wives, don't murder, don't cheat, don't do this, don't do that.
I think there is a reason why they are common for them all.
(December 29, 2011 at 8:39 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: It's in the book. They are responsible for their own mistakes, to the people whom they did wrong(even if themselves), but if you accept a religion, you are also responsible to God himself. So it's quite natural if they ask God for forgiveness first, as he is above every other man.I don't see how they can improvise themselves without the burden of responsibility [or guilt] if they had it removed through by forgiveness of god?
I'm not sure if you see my point - What if the one removes the burden of responsibility [or guilt] without learn any lesson?
(December 29, 2011 at 8:39 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Who does not? I do too.I'd love to be immortal, too. Immortality is fascinating, but... I know one good quote -
(December 29, 2011 at 8:39 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: And how is that to be morally wrong?Ah. I don't think forgiveness are morally wrong - sure, it's great feeling to have the heavy weight removed from your shoulders. But... Uh.. I live with my own repentance - To me, Repentance is sole reason I improvise my morals, ethics, and who I am -- to be good person.
I still don't see any apparent reason why the one should need the bible [or religious Scriptures] to be good. After all, the bible is written by morally primitive sheepherders lived in between of 6000-2000 years ago. But really, it's sad to think many theists would believe the conscience come from god, not humanity.
