(December 14, 2024 at 4:10 pm)Angrboda Wrote:(December 14, 2024 at 4:00 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: Actually I don't think it fails because as I have said it's a clear case that this culture condemns homosexuality as an act, so there is every reason that it's implied that expressed desires or willingness to engage in the act due to other related desires would also be condemned so far I don't see how any of your alternatives get around this. Just being honest with you here.
You missed my addendum pointing out that it is not the views of the culture that matter, but God's views, of which these codes are an expression.
Regardless, it's a moot point as your initial comment, quoted below, clearly identifies "homosexual desires," which are commonly defined as sexual desires for persons of the same sex. If I want to have sex because I'm afraid of what my peers will think of me if I don't, or because someone is holding a gun to my head -- any other kind of desire besides a sexual desire is not going to count.
(December 14, 2024 at 2:01 pm)The Architect Of Fate Wrote: And I'm pretty sure by implication it also condemns the driver of those acts homosexual desires which would be an attribute of a person
Now, I don't particularly care one way or the other as my primary point was that Sheldon was misrepresenting what the bible says about same-sex sexual acts.
First- I said nothing about gods' views, I spoke of the view as expressed in the bible which said culture follows (with the belief they are god's views)
Second-My comment on sex homosexual desires which I don't think was refuted nor was general notion of desires or willingness to engage in an act would likely still be condemned, so no I disagree non-sexual acts don't count.
Third- I still agree that he did, as I still think homosexual desires would be condemned, as would a willingness to engage in said act.
Again just being honest with I don't think this response holds up
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