RE: Atheism is a religion
January 2, 2012 at 2:27 pm
(This post was last modified: January 2, 2012 at 2:28 pm by TheDarkestOfAngels.)
(January 2, 2012 at 3:58 am)chipan Wrote: et me see if i can simplify it with an example. saying you reject God is like saying you reject Santa. unless he meant he rejects the idea that God exists.Yes, the latter would seem to be more appropiate.
(January 2, 2012 at 3:58 am)chipan Wrote: ah, you athiests always ask for proof but when it comes down to it even if there is proof you will still reject it.We atheists always ask for evidence, yes.
Don't assume things to which you don't know the answer.
As to faith, yes, religion requires faith. That's why I reject it.
I have no reason to believe any of what those deluded fools say.
(January 2, 2012 at 3:58 am)chipan Wrote: this is not true, this is stating that athiesm is the result of rejection of christianity. though i'm being picky right now i do understand what you're saying. you have some very good arguements and i have a lot to think about now.
It's absolutely true.
People always accuse atheists of stating that their atheism is a positive claim that needs to be backed up by evidence as though "God Exists" is a default presumption.
That is not a default assumption. Positing that god exists and christian beliefs is a fact of reality is a positive, unsubstantiated claim.
There is no reason for anyone to believe it.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
