RE: Stupid things religious people say
March 24, 2025 at 4:12 am
(This post was last modified: March 24, 2025 at 5:38 am by Sheldon.)
(March 24, 2025 at 12:34 am)TheWhiteMarten Wrote: Given the insane political, financial, and propaganda power put against the pro-life movement, it legitimately feels like a miracle.Not to me, it feels like the kind of irrational nonsense, the superstitious indulge all the time. However lets forget about how it subjectively feels, and check the evidence:
A miracle is defined as "an extraordinary and welcome event that is not explicable by natural or scientific laws and is therefore attributed to a divine agency."
This can be explained as an entirely natural phenomenon, so even prima facie it demonstrably does not qualify to the irrational evidential standards of the definition. Now since your deity is depicted in your bible, as being happy to commit and encourage the indiscriminate murder of children, babies, and all stages of foetal development, I am curious why anti-choicers like yourself, are celebrating this as a favourable outcome? So that's strike two, now what objective evidence, beyond your own glee at forcing your beliefs onto others, can you demonstrate that anything supernatural occurred here, and then that it was a deity, and then that it was the deity you imagine to be real?
FWIW the definition of a miracle is itself fallacious, since nothing can rationally be claimed to be true, because of the lack of an alternative explanation.
I think I know the answer to this one, but does your moral compass stop to consider whether the consequences of your actions cause suffering? Real suffering I mean, not the imaginary kind.
FYI, research has consistently shown that abortion rates are higher in countries where they are not legally available. Also pro-life is a massive misnomer, as if you really were pro life then you wouldn't risk the lives of pregnant women, and the vast majority of abortions that occur in the US are a balstocyst or zygot, it's just a microscopic clump of cells adhering to the uterine wall. By making abortions illegal, you're virtually guaranteeing more late term abortions, as women seek them elsewhere. FWIW the current stance by the foremost elite body of Obstetricians in both the US and UK, say there is no evidence that a foetus is ever conscious, and although the central nervous system starts to form around 3 weeks, the neural connections essential to register any pain (if it were fully conscious), don't fully form until after birth.
The women whose body the developing foetus or blastocyst is a part of, obviously are capable of experiencing both physical and emotional pain.