Stupid things religious people say

[TheWhiteMarten]

"Fully human" - define this concept, because you cannot mean that in a scientific sense.

Neither is simply possessing the right genetic code and being at the start of development. Becoming human is a process and it has lots of pesky grey areas. People try to draw lines within those grey areas and codify them into law, which ends in tears. The notion that a fertilized cell is human in any but the most rudimentary and reductionist sense is laughable. It's entirely possible that it isn't even viable. The whole notion is founded in thunderingly ignorant religious dogma that was cooked up before the dark ages. The only thing more absurd would be the misbegotten idea that some Senator or other should have any say over a woman's body.

I have a compromise for the pro-birthers. For every woman who is forced to carry a child to term the offending sperm-donor shall have his balls sliced off. We've clearly thrown bodily autonomy out with the bath water and the idiot has demonstrated that he can't use them responsibly. Fucker damned near caused an abortion! A lovely deterrent that is guaranteed to prevent repeat offenders.

Appreciate the civility.

The crux of my argument is derived from the problem you described; that unending grey zone of human opinion and the philosophical defenses of them simply cannot be used as a basis for legal doctrine - unequivocally so when the topic at hand is human rights.

We thus then can only turn to one source - science. 

The notion that a fertilized cell is human in any but the most rudimentary and reductionists sense is the entire point; *all* humans, even those at the most earliest stages of their development, deserve the basic human right of life. 

I am again perplexed by this idea that women are so fundamentally ignorant of sexual intercourse that they don't understand the risks of pregnancy and how it always somehow devolves into, "Men bad, hurt men."