RE: Stupid things religious people say
March 30, 2025 at 5:59 am
(This post was last modified: March 30, 2025 at 6:08 am by Sheldon.)
(March 29, 2025 at 7:34 pm)TheWhiteMarten Wrote:That's pure sophistry.(March 29, 2025 at 7:10 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: No, they're a conservative group of medical professionals who cite their beliefs, not facts, to push their beliefs on others and use their professional titles to make them sound legitimate.
Also, if you call me "hunny", "honey", or anything else in that vein to try and somehow degrade my opinion, in you're mind, you'll regret it.
So they are professionals who have dedicated their lives to their subject,
The American College of Paediatricians is a socially conservative advocacy group founded in 2002. The group advocates in favour of abstinence-only sex education and conversion therapy, and advocates against vaccine mandates, abortion rights and rights for LGBT people.
They are not a scientific body, and they are no advocating science. Those things they're advocating are based on religious ideology, and they are not only unscientific, they are deeply pernicious, and have directly caused great harm to children and adolescents in the US. The UK has announced plans to ban conversion therapy, and make it illegal, and rightly so. Since in the US it has an appalling record, often including exorcism, physical violence and food deprivation, and remember these are vulnerable children.
"The British Psychological Society, and other professional bodies, including NHS England and the Royal College of Psychiatrists, have warned that all types of conversion therapy are "unethical and potentially harmful"."
FYI, the BPS is a scientific body, and they are offering a scientific opinion, acting as the representative and professional body for psychology and psychologists in the UK, promoting excellence and ethical practice in the field.
There is also global scientific opposition to conversion therapy:
"The world's largest organisation for psychiatrists - the World Psychiatric Association - has announced their opposition to the so-called practice of "gay conversion" or "reparative" therapy, declaring it unethical, unscientific and harmful to those who undergo it."
So not only is that conservative advocacy group you cited not a scientific body, their claims and goals are directly at odds with global scientific opinion. This reminds of creationist lying that evolution is a theory in crisis, then offering a list of "scientists" who oppose it, but the list apart from being infinitesimally small, list people who are not remotely qualified in the actual fields of study, people who have a doctorate in engineering commenting on biology, or a primary school religious education teacher, being labelled scientists to create a false impression.
Just as @TheWhiteMarten is doing here of course. They are offering their subjective religious ideology, and it is an extreme conservative view of religion as well. It is neither based on, nor does it reflect a scientific consensus from experts in the related fields of study.