(April 18, 2025 at 10:09 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:He just admitted that he thinks all politicians are liars/criminals. He is a victim of the 21st century of bullshit and propaganda.(April 18, 2025 at 9:39 pm)Belacqua Wrote: The quote from Nate White is a good example of the polarization that I've been talking about. People go to extremes, and think that because Trump is terrible (he is) then Obama must in some way be the opposite of that.
This is like the risible claim that Obama's only scandal while in office was wearing a tan suit.
I think that the women and children killed by the 24,287 bombs Obama dropped during his last year in office might not attribute to him those same wonderful qualities. (The figure is undoubtedly low, since there were also clandestine operations.)
https://www.cfr.org/blog/how-many-bombs-...-drop-2016
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...ama-legacy
In my opinion, 24,287 acknowledged bombs in one year do not rise to the level of compassion, subtlety, or sensitivity.
Trump is so bad that I guess the only way we can keep any hope alive for democracy is to make ourselves blind to the truth about the other team. Yet it is possible that they are both bad.
The good news, I guess, is that you aren't really as cynical and hopeless as you say, if you still think that electing Dems is going to improve anything.
Mr. White doesn't address Boris Johnson's level of sophistication.
It's weird how in a thread about human nature you've managed to steer this into a Trump-vs-Obama thing.
Well, no, it's not weird. You're just trumpeting whataboutism without acknowledging it.
The smart ones just figured that your can't sell your lie /crime straight away, if it's too absurd. No you first have to convince the gullible that ALL people/politicians are liars. THEN you sell your lie.
It's a variant of: ...drag then down to your level and beat them with experience.
.. And Bel fell for that script. Line, hook and sinker
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