RE: Human Nature
April 19, 2025 at 4:10 am
(This post was last modified: April 19, 2025 at 6:08 am by Sheldon.)
(April 18, 2025 at 9:39 pm)Belacqua Wrote:Except the author said nothing of the sort, or even implied it. Only listed qualities, that he felt one man possessed. and the other lacked. He made no comment on what Obama did with those qualities, you seem to be the one who is indulging in endless whataboutism.(April 18, 2025 at 2:00 pm)Alan V Wrote: Being something of an Anglophile already, I can't help but feel even more in common with these British perspectives than with those of many of my fellow Americans.
However, it isn't just the fault of Americans per se, but with our evolved human nature. Trump is a supernormal stimulus, and Americans are psychologically naive. In a way, I am letting people off the hook by saying that.
The quote from Nate White is a good example of the polarization that I've been talking about. People go to extremes, and think that because Trump is terrible (he is) then Obama must in some way be the opposite of that.
Quote:This is like the risible claim that Obama's only scandal while in office was wearing a tan suit.No it really is not, and your endless attempts to insert Obama into a thread about Trump, suggests you are trying to defend Trump with whataboutism. Even if they were to find the rotting corpse of Maddie McCann in Obama's basement, it doesn't change what Trump is, or what he is doing. You need to try and stop looking at this in a bipartisan way. Trump is a level of greedy crass ineptitude, and vile bigotry that is deserving of critical comment all on its own.
Quote:I think that the women and children killed by the 24,287 bombs Obama dropped during his last year in office might not attribute to him those same wonderful qualities.
Groovy, and what has this to with Trump? Maybe the questionable legality of Obama's policy on drone use deserves a thread of its own? Rather than being use as whataboutism here?
Quote:Trump is so bad that I guess the only way we can keep any hope alive for democracy is to make ourselves blind to the truth about the other team. Yet it is possible that they are both bad.
It's bizarre the way you project straw men claims onto others, as if any level of nuanced or subtle understanding, is something only you possess. It's just bizarre to keep referencing Obama in a thread about Trump, as if one can only hate what Trump does or is, if one thinks Obama was faultless.
Quote:The good news, I guess, is that you aren't really as cynical and hopeless as you say, if you still think that electing Dems is going to improve anything.
And there it is, as if this thread is all about bi-partisan politics, and not about what a ghastly individual Trump is, and why he is totally unsuited for any sort of public office. If you want to post about that, isn't there a thread dedicated to the GOP, where such bipartisan comparisons seem apropos?
FWIW, the best chance of checking the abuse of power, and the onward assault on democracy, and march towards autocracy by Senator Palpatine, is to elect as many Democrats as possible in the midterms. Even if some of them think gun control is more important, than controlling what women do with their own bodies.