(April 19, 2025 at 5:32 am)Belacqua Wrote:(April 19, 2025 at 4:50 am)Ivan Denisovich Wrote: USA fails by many metrics (wealth disparity, imprisonment rate, support for israel genocidal actions) so trump supporters can be right in that gov failed them. Wanting strong man to save them however is nothing more than childishness and ignorance about fate of fascist regimes coupled with propaganda.
I frequently go back to the study done by professors at Princeton and Northwestern a few years ago, which compared polls of what people want with the actions taken by government.
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746
These researchers concluded that the will of the people has little or no effect on what government does. So if they're right, there is no democracy to lose.
Not really. It's not that will of the people don't matter. It is will of poor people that does not matter (much). Also to be honest people get what they vote on - if they believe that some right wing clowns will make things easier for working class then they're simply deluded. It's like in Poland where people vote on neoliberals and then are surprised that they do neoliberal crap instead of things people allegedly wish for. But if people would really wish for x wouldn't they vote on someone else, who isn't known for hating x with a passion?
Quote:What we should call the present system I'm not sure. Oligarchy, or maybe Inverted Totalitarianism. Anyway, Trump seems to me like just the extreme point (so far) of a trend that's been going on for a while now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism
Illiberalism, autocracy, fascism... Label matters little.
The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth.
Mikhail Bakunin.
Mikhail Bakunin.