RE: Human Nature
April 20, 2025 at 6:14 am
(This post was last modified: April 20, 2025 at 6:21 am by Ivan Denisovich.)
(April 20, 2025 at 5:45 am)Alan V Wrote:(April 20, 2025 at 4:39 am)Sheldon Wrote: Trump is not necessarily a danger because he is prepared to lie, but many of his lies are demonstrably pernicious.
When Trump first ran for office back in 2016, I read a fact-checking site about his public statements. It told me that most American politicians lied 12 to 15% of the time, whereas Trump lied over 60% of the time. The degree and frequency of his lies have proven to be overwhelming.
And yet despite frequency of his lies supposedly being overwhelming he lost popular vote first time. Something to ponder.
Quote:That is why he is a demagogue too. His lies appeal specifically to people's prejudices against liberals, immigrants, the "deep state," and whoever stands in his way.
He is a fascist. His lies are nothing original, though he sounds far dumber than Goebbels and his ilk.
Quote:The fact that so many people can't see his barrage against the facts for what it so obviously is points to a huge flaw in human nature.
Does it? So the fact that so many people can* see through his barrage of lies points to something good in human nature? It's not human nature that is to blame for trump I would say but rather ignorance, hatefulness and failures of previous administrations to address very real grievances that people voting for him have. Real grievances like offshoring jobs or feeling that gov does shit for them (which considering the stagnation of federal minimum wage for example seems pretty on point) not some bullshit "deep state". It's mighty convenient to blame human nature when causes of trump success are the same as with other fascists - real inequality and anger rising from it coupled with ignorance and propaganda. trump is nothing extraordinary - his lies aren't any more outrageous than lies of jarosław kaczyński who called Germany a IV Reich and claimed that childbirth rates are low cause young women drink to excess (sadly I don't have appropriate idiom to convey it). I'm afraid that reason for trump seeming so monstrous is an american exceptionalism of beholders when in reality USA is a country like any other and just as capable of sliding into fascism as every other country.
*trump got only 2 284 952 votes more than Harris if quoted article is correct It hardly can be nature fault, unless some people are just born worse but I doubt that you would claim such
The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth.
Mikhail Bakunin.
Mikhail Bakunin.