(April 27, 2025 at 11:05 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(April 27, 2025 at 10:40 pm)Ivan Denisovich Wrote: Humans aren't bad by nature. Simple as that. It ain't children story - not being good does not automatically mean being bad. Also police and courts exists and thus consequences for acting like shit.
How many people tailor their opinions on this or that issue based on whether they think it's right or wrong morally? I think most people check their wallets first and their group identity second. Maybe the other way around in a totalitarian state, but not a big difference when group identity means poverty or comfort in that context.
Here in a nominally-capitalist state, "it's the economy, stupid" wins elections. What that says about human nature isn't nice.
I think that morality comes first to most people. Morality viewed by lens of ideology however; people support say libertarian policies because they think them just and because they see them as good for themselves. It's not that majority of people are monsters who would take welfare from grannies and kids for shit and giggles (though number of them is insignificant), they simply see this welfare as something morally bad and I suppose in their own view they're thinking that they are helping said grannies and kids by voting on politicians wanting to cut it.
The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth.
Mikhail Bakunin.
Mikhail Bakunin.