(April 28, 2025 at 12:22 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(April 28, 2025 at 10:37 am)Ivan Denisovich Wrote: You certainly know more about US politics than I.
Voting for lower taxes and cut for gov services could have a moral reasoning too - taxes being seen as punishment for success and gov services as unfair competition or form of handout that breeds dependability. Now that would be insane view (though I read this crap about taxes as punishment quite often in internet arguments) but as far as I am concerned neoliberalism and fascism are insane ideologies. Of course from the fact that moral reasoning could be seen in voting like you mentioned above one can't reach for conclusion that it necessarily is. It's merely one possibility though I would argue that ideology first and money as plus is a stance that might be more common that people think. It would in fact explain otherwise irrational choices of working class people voting for neoliberals. To be fair however thinking that there will be economic benefits would be obvious counterpoint and something in favor of money being deciding factor.
People act politically for different reasons, both in voting and also in running for office, formulating policy, etc. I do believe some ground their decisions in their own moral imperatives, but others make decisions based on social utility, hunger for power, venality, and so on.
Sure. I would simply argue that morality matters far more for majority of people than it is commonly stated in whatever media I watch/read. For me this is the key to understanding other people voting decisions because as far as I can see using economics as predictor result in hilarity and befuddlement both.
The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth.
Mikhail Bakunin.
Mikhail Bakunin.