(April 28, 2025 at 10:53 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: We can disagree on arguable matters..and our opinions of human nature are definitely arguable...but I don't think that particular support for your opinion could withstand factual scrutiny. I think it arises from the mistaken impression that bad outcomes necessarily follow bad intent or bad means (and, conversely, that good intent could never produce such outcomes). As if bad things like genocide wouldn't happen for any reason other than lacking a single shred of goodness.
OFC there would be a word for genocide. It's something we can do. Europeans very nearly completed the genocide of native americans before they even knew they were there. We nearly killed off brown pelicans, on accident, trying to prevent malaria. Wondering the whole time and very concerned about wtf was happening to the pelicans.
Same to you. I don't think that there is any factual basis for opinion you hold. In fact it is hysterically funny to me this trying to square up alleged goodness of human nature and existence of genocide that is perhaps most evil thing that can be done. For me what you engage in is nothing other than apologia but instead of defending celestial tyrant you seek inherent goodness in bloodthirsty animals which only (relatively) recently acknowledged that slavery is bad (yet it is still practiced)*.
*An estimated 50 million people were living in modern slavery on any given day in 2021 [https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/map/]
The first revolt is against the supreme tyranny of theology, of the phantom of God. As long as we have a master in heaven, we will be slaves on earth.
Mikhail Bakunin.
Mikhail Bakunin.