RE: Human Nature
May 1, 2025 at 7:58 am
(This post was last modified: May 1, 2025 at 8:24 am by Ivan Denisovich.)
(May 1, 2025 at 7:20 am)Alan V Wrote:(May 1, 2025 at 5:41 am)Belacqua Wrote: The Democrats lost the election to Donald Trump.
Perhaps we should ask them to do a little bit better next time.
Which brings us right back to human nature, doesn't it?
Ah that dastardly human nature always foiling perfect plans whether it comes to communism ("communism was good idea in theory but human nature prevented it from working") or democrats fitness for rule. Certainly it couldn't be democrats own fault - they couldn't be too centrist or too leftist (depends on what one does read). And of course fact that their candidate lost to imbecilic, clownish fascist is another evidence of human nature being at fault not circus like incompetence of both party and candidate. Losing to idiot eloquent as average 3 years old might just mean that candidate sucked donkey balls.
Quote:Democrats lost not because there wasn't a clear choice between adequate and evil but because human nature makes us susceptible to demagoguery and propaganda.
Of course. Certainly it couldn't be that people were dissatisfied with democrats. Certainly it can't be that democrats don't do all that much for working class. Wealth inequality, house prices, foreign policy issues... All that means shit, it must be fault of human nature. Well I guess such "explanation" is convenient as it allows to shift blame solely on voters and not on politicians who couldn't manage win with clown barely able to string something approaching coherent sequence together. Losing to trump is like Muhammad Ali in his prime losing to some fat dude who don't know what box is and who also don't have fucking hands.
ETA: If it is human nature at fault then why there is still democracy in the world? Are Americans are naturally deficient and thus prone to vote on fascists? Fascist trash in other countries can't beat propaganda "perfection" of immigrants eating cats? Parts of Europe are settled by naturally superior people who don't buy into demagoguery and propaganda? Surely if it is human nature at fault then at least one of the above must be true.
Quote:I very much blame low-information and apathetic voters. "Fool me once, fool me twice...." They may well deserve what they get, but they are punishing all of us.
False equivalencies are based on poor information.
I blame politicians. When your candidate can't defeat dude who makes Brezhnev at the end of his life look like Cicero, Caesar and Churchill combined then your candidate suck. It's not voters (or rather potential voters) fault that they refused to eat shit politicians were trying to feed them.
And yes people voting for trump are fucking dumb. Maybe totally unreachable, maybe not. But if opponent of wannabe mussolini can't mobilize enough voters then it only shows how poor that candidate was as having this imbecile for opponent should already give almost guaranteed victory.
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Mikhail Bakunin.
Mikhail Bakunin.