Human Nature

[Ivan Denisovich]

........?  We've both discussed all sorts of other factors that operate in tandem with whatever our nature may be.  Wherever we fall on the range of decency and indecency, however defined.  

I agree it's bullshit when people say that, but not because we can't cognizantly discuss human nature.  Communism (or what passed for it) failed for all sorts of reasons.  When or if democracy (and capitalism) fails it will also have many reasons - human nature among them.  It is, after all, in all of our natures to fail.  It's something we're capable of, and something we can even expect along predictable lines of duress.   Competence is a double edged sword.  Plants don't fall for this shit.

Perhaps we did but you quoted my answers to Alan who seems to blame solely or mostly human nature.

I don't agree at all with human nature being at fault here. For me it's a non factor, an answer that answers nothing (just like god) and allows some to feel smug satisfaction for what they deem to be a correct choice. It's not human nature that makes some vote on trump but confluence of factors - be it education, class belonging, being nationalist or not... It's an attempt to smuggle into a polite discussion thesis about some people being simply better without immediately inviting scorn.