(January 3, 2012 at 3:56 pm)Cinjin Wrote: Welcome noob.
Thanks

Quote:Interesting questions. Are you being legitimate? We've seen MANY others come here wearing a "mask of doubt" only to grant themselves time to post ridiculous worn-out assertions we've heard a million times.
You are being legitimate right?
I hope by my replies you will know I am legitimate. I'm pretty close to being able to call myself a non-believer, but I still have a number of questions which tie me to Christianity. I still have alot of love for Christianity though, so you will probably see me arguing for Christianity in this forum because I think many atheists have an unfair conception of it.
(January 3, 2012 at 3:57 pm)frankiej Wrote: You won't really get a bigger fan of zombie films than me, but when people begin to actually believe a story about this zombie, I become worried.
It is a story masquerading as truth. As much as I enjoy the thrill of a good book, I have no time for it when it comes to reality.
Well that may be so, but you have to understand that it is a huge thing for many people.
(January 3, 2012 at 4:07 pm)Cinjin Wrote: There's dozens of possibilities. First you must prove that Christ even existed and the evidence of that is not near so solid as you probably think.
Mind if we work on the assumption that Jesus did exist?
Quote:Secondly, even if jesus did exist, who says the record of their actions is accurate?
Well I definitely don't think they are fully accurate and possibly with some embellishment, such as possibly the virgin birth.
Quote:What if the bible is made up and the entire story is fiction?
Some may be complete fiction, but I think a good part of it is based on real things that happened. It is all to rather easy to deny that there was even a great preacher called Jesus at the time.
Quote:What if jesus and his disciples were con men getting free food from gullible tent dwellers?
I would discount that based on the quality of Christ's teachings.
Quote:What if his disciples didn't see shit, but someone 100 years after the fact just wrote that they did?
Possibly, and this is the way I hoped the thread would go. So how do you think Christianity started and people believed what was written?
Quote:What if the Quran is true and jesus was just an ordinary prophet and Allah is the one you should be praying to?
Are you going to hell? ... because there is A LOT of muslims who believe you are a blasphemous infidel worthy of eternal punishment! What makes them wrong and you and your disciples right?
Yahweh, Allah, the prayers go to the same place. I've always found myself praying to the Father anyway and I don't find an exclusive, tribal god to be a reasonable belief.
(January 3, 2012 at 4:07 pm)aleialoura Wrote: Paul of Tarsus was the person who dreamed up Jesus. No one ever heard of him until a few hundred years after he supposedly died.
How do you know this?
Quote:I'd like to add that the story of Jesus is plagiarized in parts. It's not even a 100% original story.
Not gunna start talk about the Egyptian god are you?
"Thou believest in love as a divine attribute because thou thyself lovest; thou believest that God is a wise, benevolent being because thou knowest nothing better in thyself than benevolence and wisdom." - L.Feuerbach