(May 2, 2025 at 5:30 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:(May 2, 2025 at 3:21 am)Ivan Denisovich Wrote: Naive might have been too soft a word. Expecting Russian to lay their lives for incompetent gov which insisted on wasting their lives in idiotic offensive would be stupid or insane.But why? Why would that be insane or stupid to expect? Whatever it is you're thinking of there, that makes it seem obvious to you that this is a batshit expectation...is the kind of thing I'm talking about when I use the term "human nature". You indicate just in this sentence that you think it's predictive enough to consider a third party stupid or insane just for having expectations contrary to whatever that is.
Why it would be insane to expect populace already tired of war to support gov that want them to stay in war and is incompetent to boot. Even brightest minds of our era can't grap why it would be insane.

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Mikhail Bakunin.
Mikhail Bakunin.