(January 3, 2012 at 4:16 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: 1: A charismatic leader calling himself christ was executed by the romans and people made stuff up about him. I'm thinking of a David Koresh type character, (some branch davdians still think that david koresh was the 'lamb of god')
Would it be naive for me to ask why people would make up that Christ rose from the dead and then make that the core of the religion when the original teachings wouldn't have included this?
Quote:2: Saul of Tarsus made the whole thing up in much the same way as Joeseph Smith did with the mormans.
Didn't Paul make up some rather good moral teachings for someone willing to lie about such things?
Quote:3: There was a sect that later invented a figure that matched what they were thinking, a sort of mythalogical figure head.
I think I am slowly realising how biased I am about this whole thing. I can't think of much to argue against your points, then then again I haven't read any apologetics in a long time now so I'm a bit rusty XD
Quote:4: God sent himself down to earth to suffer so that he could be sacrificed to himself for a crime he invented, (only joking, this is not really an option)
I would say that's a bit of a crude understanding of it.
Quote:Are you seriously asking why some people would lie to support their faith position.
Yup

Quote:And finally is that a picture of you in your avatar coz if it is you look just like my mates daughter, its uncanny.
I'm gunna assume I'm probably not as thats highly unlikely

(January 3, 2012 at 4:21 pm)passionatefool Wrote: Yes. In a court that would be called "assuming facts which are not in evidence."
Get you

Ok, got any reason to think Jesus didn't exist?
"Thou believest in love as a divine attribute because thou thyself lovest; thou believest that God is a wise, benevolent being because thou knowest nothing better in thyself than benevolence and wisdom." - L.Feuerbach