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Poll: What Was Jesus' Sacrifice?
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Jesus' sacrifice to god so man would have to sacrifice no more and to cleanse the sins of humanity.
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2 66.67%
Not a sacrifice at all. It was a willing death to clean sins.
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I don't know.
33.33%
1 33.33%
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Christians: A Question
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RE: Christians: A Question
(January 5, 2012 at 10:12 am)fr0d0 Wrote: People didn't sacrifice Jesus though Shell. They killed him with no reference to sacrifice. The Jews that allegedly presented him for criminal judgement weren't sacrificing him. God, knowing they would kill him, let his physical manifestation be subject to it... therefore sacrificing himself.

Still doesn't make sense, Frodo. What about the animals? They were just "killed" by humans. So was Jesus.

I'm sorry, but there is no getting around the fact that Christians just do not want god to have been okay with a human sacrifice. If god made the sacrifice to cleanse people of sin (or whatever) how is that a sacrifice? In fact, it is not really a sacrifice at all, given that the rest of him just went back to heaven. Without the human sacrifice aspect of it, it's a shitty story with more plot holes than Twilight.
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Christians: A Question - by Shell B - January 2, 2012 at 11:58 am
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