Russia and Ukraine

[The Grand Nudger]

You think Putin wants to invade the USA? 

More than the current occupation from the whitehouse.....?  Still, funny question for you to ask.  Said he didn't want to invade ukraine.  Still says he isn't invading ukraine.  

It's impossible for Ukraine to win back the territory it's lost through the military means it has now. Regaining the territory would require a vast escalation of violence, with more countries becoming actively involved. The people you call conservative seem reluctant to have US soldiers fighting there, or pushing a nuclear-armed country too far. 

Russia doesn't appear to believe this is true.  They're feeding 1k suckers a day on average into the meatgrinder to prevent ukraine from retaking even more of the land they've already retaken about a third of.  How far would be too far.  Pushing russia back to it's own borders...too far?  You might want to go tell the ukrainians.  

The Americans formerly known as "Liberal" are now fully in line with the Military Industrial Complex. So they're pushing for whatever escalation they fantasize can save Ukraine. In the past the old type of liberal didn't want World War III, but that seems to have changed.

Liberals, amiright?  So, thought experiment.  What part of preventing ww3 does acknowledging and failing to prevent territorial invasions serve? Let's imagine a world where the us invades canada and mexico. Simultaneously. How far from the current borders would you counsel people to accept as the cost of doing business with a nuclear armed country that ought not be pushed too far? I know, I know, pedestrian. Let's say the us decides to go to war with...idk..the whole fucking planet. Why not, who's going to stop us...or, more specifically, who should?

These are the kinds of questions I feel anyone who makes this type of argument ought to be able to answer. I truly do. At least then we could scale fore ukraine and say "okay guys, 10km more and you've hit the line." You know? Give them a constructive end space. So they don't get shorted, but also fall short of doing The Bad Thing. In this case, that thing being kicking a burglar out of their fucking house.

This garbage is all so unbelievably stupid I write it down to a sunk cost fallacy. People are fucking embarrassed at being so wrong, and so shitty wrong, about ukraine. There's no actual ideology or reasoning behind it. They just feel they have to keep saying those things.