RE: Atheism is a religion
January 6, 2012 at 1:43 pm
(This post was last modified: January 6, 2012 at 2:07 pm by amkerman.)
I agree with you doubting Thomas. Saying atheism isn't a religion is like saying homosexuals can't get married. Both are ridiculous.
Fidel my attack was not on you but on the statement "atheism is simply lack of belief".
If you don't know you are agnostic. It's fundamentally different from being atheist in my opinion. There is still a belief, you believe you don't know whether God or gods exist. Agnosticism is intellectually honest moreso than theism or atheism. We are all agnostic by definition, since God does not lend itself to vigorous proof and we cannot "know".
I am not passive aggressive. I will tell you what I think. Straight up. Sorry if I was overly verbose.
Shell: all of reality is experienced through consciousness. If you believe in reality you must believe consciousness is real. If consciousness is real it must exist apart from sciences observation of or ideas about it. The only things science believes exists apart from it's observation or ideas about are universal constants. If consciousness is a universal constant it can correctly be called "God". Sentience as universal law responsible for the creation of the universe and everything within it. If you believe in reality you must necessarily believe in "God".
If you cannot be confident in that consciousness is real you can not be confident in your experience of reality.
If "you don't believe in anything" by definition you can't be conscious.
Fidel my attack was not on you but on the statement "atheism is simply lack of belief".
If you don't know you are agnostic. It's fundamentally different from being atheist in my opinion. There is still a belief, you believe you don't know whether God or gods exist. Agnosticism is intellectually honest moreso than theism or atheism. We are all agnostic by definition, since God does not lend itself to vigorous proof and we cannot "know".
I am not passive aggressive. I will tell you what I think. Straight up. Sorry if I was overly verbose.
Shell: all of reality is experienced through consciousness. If you believe in reality you must believe consciousness is real. If consciousness is real it must exist apart from sciences observation of or ideas about it. The only things science believes exists apart from it's observation or ideas about are universal constants. If consciousness is a universal constant it can correctly be called "God". Sentience as universal law responsible for the creation of the universe and everything within it. If you believe in reality you must necessarily believe in "God".
If you cannot be confident in that consciousness is real you can not be confident in your experience of reality.
If "you don't believe in anything" by definition you can't be conscious.
