(January 6, 2012 at 1:43 pm)amkerman Wrote: Shell: all of reality is experienced through consciousness. If you believe in reality you must believe consciousness is real. If consciousness is real it must exist apart from sciences observation of or ideas about it. The only things science believes exists apart from it's observation or ideas about are universal constants. If consciousness is a universal constant it can correctly be called "God". Sentience as universal law responsible for the creation of the universe and everything within it. If you believe in reality you must necessarily believe in "God".
If you cannot be confident in that consciousness is real you can not be confident in your experience of reality.
If "you don't believe in anything" by definition you can't be conscious.
The parts I bolded are mere assertion and can be dismissed as such. Did someone say they 'don't believe in anything' or is that just a straw man? I believe in lots of things. I just try to make a little effort to make my beliefs proportional to the reasons I have to believe them. I am delighted when I find out I'm wrong about something I believe: it means I can discard an incorrect belief, which means I'm making a little progress. There's only one thing I say I don't believe that gives you heartburn. It really chaps your hide for some reason that I don't rule out some conception of a god 100% and still won't say I believe it exists. For you, 'I don't know and I don't believe' doesn't compute. Which would be fine if you didn't come to the house of 'I don't know and I don't believe' to crap on us.
