(January 7, 2012 at 5:59 am)amkerman Wrote: Doublet:
The fallacy has nothing to do with what atheists think about God, it has to do with the statement that they "lack belief". It isn't that they don't belief God "exists", it's that the are aware of an idea called "God" yet somehow "lack" any belief in it.
Yes, I am aware of an idea called god, and lack the belief that it exists. That's commonly phrased as "I lack belief in god." or "I lack any belief in god."
Quote:If I ask you, what is "bocephilitus"? And you say, "I have no idea, a word you just made up I guess", you have just made multiple statements of your belief in "bocephilitus"
No. The common understanding of the phrase "belief in bocephilitus" means that the speaker believes that bocephilitus exists. In this context it would mean he has this belief in the existence of bocephilitus without even knowing what the word means, which would be stupid.
Quote:1. You don't know what it is
2. A word
3. Something I made up
To the state that you lack belief in it commits the fallacy of invincible ignorance.
No it does not. You have not presented any evidence for me to reject, or even defined the word. Withholding belief in that situation is logically justified, otherwise all claims must be accepted at face value which again would be stupid.
Quote: The very fact that I said the word and you heard it forces you to form a belief about it.
Yes. ABOUT it, but not IN it.
Quote:If I say, "don't think about a white elephant" and you say you didn't... Invincible ignorance.
No. You obviously don't know what the fallacy is.
