(January 8, 2012 at 2:11 pm)Lord Summerisle Wrote: What "b*****t" have I said? Is this the way you conduct your "intellectual" discussions? If this is the way atheists engage in intellectual discussion then its no wonder the Dawkins.net forum imploded. In my experience I've often noted that when a particular poster feels the need to resort to such profanity, they've done so out of sheer desperation for their argument is already lost. If all ammunition is spent, then by all means throw the pistol out of the pram.
Oh? I thought you said:
Quote:An atheist once said to me: atheism is a religion in the same way that the non-collecting of stamps is a hobby. I replied - well for non-collectors of stamps, you atheists sure spend an awful lot of time discussing your non-hobby.
QED
And you are vying for some sort of intelectual high ground, think again about post 174. If that resembles an intelectual post, please tell me how. You made a claim regarding why we talk about religion, I answered, so stop hiding behind a pseudo-intelectual ego
Quote:In a nutshell, science says that when it comes to God and spirituality - you're on your own.
Yes, and we want it to continue that way.
Quote:As for atheism being a religion, I can see why atheists find it annoying. They've spent so much time distancing themselves from mainstream religion, only to find themselves tarred with the religion brush, with outspoken atheists compared to Jehovahs witnesses trying to ram their belief system down everyone else's throat. I can understand that aggravation.You are confused, the aggravation is from frustration, not offense. This has been talked to death, each of your points have been answered many times. Ad nauseum.
Quote:If atheism is a religion, then it certainly is a very different kind of religion.Yeah, "The religion of not having a religion". There goes the law of no contradiction out the window.
Quote:Where atheists draw criticism, is where on one hand they claim to be proponents of facts and science, but often twist facts to serve their cause. For instance, they will state that religion is the source of the worlds evil, and even extend this to claim that Adolf Hilter was a practicing Catholic, but yet igore the fact that the main perpetrators of mass genocide in the 21st century were mostly in fact, atheist.
Get this in your head once and for all: The only thing you can inferr from an atheist is that he doesn't believe any god or gods. There is no ideology behind it. If you are trying to pull out the old Stalin chestnut, I though you were smarter than this. Communism + a personality cult.
Quote:Another example is with religion in prison, yes a high number of prison inmates call themselves Christian, and athests often use this as proof that religion causes criminal behaviour. However lets not ignore the fact that many of them have converted once already incarcerated and have hardly lived a Christian life. Its the twisting of facts that I take issue with, and should be, in theory, very unatheist like.
Oh, they weren't True Christians? Anyhow, did you made all this post only to whine the mean atheists are mean to you? Grow a pair man. And I will re-iterate, the argument that they are better people comes from christians, to wich some people use the stats as a counter argument.